Mandatory Digital ID Cards

[Heathblue]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

Just Imagine the armchair experts and critics of the CCMB massive calling anyone. fascist for not bowing to their way of the world only to wake up one morning to find out that the person they voted for and elected has threatened the electorate that you'll not be able to work if you do not say yes sir, ladies and gents, we are here!!!!!!!, has the word fascist taken on a new meaning ?, will the massive continue to peddle the word in view of their leaders actions ? Or will they just scuttle off and hide under the bed like they did with covid. You realize how bad it is for the radical left when Sludge cannot shoe horn in "it was thatchers fault", you got what you deserve.

[jon1959]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdr624j16jpo

Swiss voters have narrowly approved a plan to introduce voluntary electronic identity cards.

With all votes counted, 50.4% of those who voted said yes to the proposal, while 49.6% rejected it.

The closeness of the ballot is a surprise. Opinion polls had suggested up to 60% backed digital IDs, which also had the approval of the Swiss government, and both houses of parliament.

It was Switzerland's second vote on digital IDs. An earlier proposal was rejected in 2021, amid concerns the data would be held centrally, and controlled largely by private providers.

Sunday's revised proposal keeps the system in government hands. Data will be stored only on the smartphones of individual users, and digital IDs will be optional.

Citizens can continue to use national identity card if they choose, which has been standard for decades in Switzerland.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

We have it in Sweden. what's the problem?

Sweden has a widely used system of electronic identification (eID), with BankID being the most popular digital ID, allowing secure identification for public and private services in Sweden. More recently, a digital ID card feature was introduced within the BankID app, providing a digital version of the physical ID card with equivalent security

[stevo]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

Apart from cost, I’m still waiting for people to state the reasons they are against it.

[JamesWales]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

Apart from cost, I’m still waiting for people to state the reasons they are against it.

Cost is a pretty valid reason in itself though, no?

[stevo]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

Cost is a pretty valid reason in itself though, no?

Absolutely- my first comment on this matter I relayed concern on the cost but other than that I don’t have an issue with it. But the likes of Heathblue for example appears to have other concerns without actually stating what they are.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

Absolutely- my first comment on this matter I relayed concern on the cost but other than that I donÂ’t have an issue with it. But the likes of Heathblue for example appears to have other concerns without actually stating what they are.

His concerns are based on the fact that hes madder than David " The Lizard " Ike

[Mr Ducie]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

Apart from cost, I’m still waiting for people to state the reasons they are against it.

Apart from cost, I’m still waiting for people to state the reasons they are against it.

On the face of it , it appears a good idea.

Reasons to be cautious

* Tony Blair’s son is involved in its development
* Could lead to a cashless society
* Fines and penalties could be imposed digitally
* Medical history can be accessed which could result in discrimination against people who decide against injections and other treatments.
* State Benefits could be sanctioned and overpayments could be made mandatory regardless of financial circumstances.
* Any digital footprint would be intrinsically linked, such as smart meter readings, internet access and browsing history
* Open to fraud.
* It’s not “Free” someone is going to be rich at the expense of the public.
* linked to travel
* in order to obtain your Digital ID you need to present your Driving License or Passport.
* GDPR will be obsolete.
* Roll out is in lockstep with other countries

This list is not exhaustive

[Heathblue]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

This list is not exhaustive

And the only ones who would abide by the list are those who currently live within the laws!!!!!!, the radical far left and their associated law breakers, it would just be business as usual.

[The Bloop]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

On the face of it , it appears a good idea.

Reasons to be cautious

* Tony Blair’s son is involved in its development
* Could lead to a cashless society
* Fines and penalties could be imposed digitally
* Medical history can be accessed which could result in discrimination against people who decide against injections and other treatments.
* State Benefits could be sanctioned and overpayments could be made mandatory regardless of financial circumstances.
* Any digital footprint would be intrinsically linked, such as smart meter readings, internet access and browsing history
* Open to fraud.
* It’s not “Free” someone is going to be rich at the expense of the public.
* linked to travel
* in order to obtain your Digital ID you need to present your Driving License or Passport.
* GDPR will be obsolete.
* Roll out is in lockstep with other countries

This list is not exhaustive

There's lots of 'could's in there.

The main gripe ive seen is people not liking the fact that Euan Blair's company is (possibly) involved.

[jon1959]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

On the face of it , it appears a good idea.

Reasons to be cautious

* Tony Blair’s son is involved in its development
* Could lead to a cashless society
* Fines and penalties could be imposed digitally
* Medical history can be accessed which could result in discrimination against people who decide against injections and other treatments.
* State Benefits could be sanctioned and overpayments could be made mandatory regardless of financial circumstances.
* Any digital footprint would be intrinsically linked, such as smart meter readings, internet access and browsing history
* Open to fraud.
* It’s not “Free” someone is going to be rich at the expense of the public.
* linked to travel
* in order to obtain your Digital ID you need to present your Driving License or Passport.
* GDPR will be obsolete.
* Roll out is in lockstep with other countries

This list is not exhaustive

If you have to have a driving licence or passport to obtain a Digital ID that takes away the one reason my partner thought it might be a useful change. Neither her mother (recently died) or her brother had either driving licence or passport and had huge difficulty proving their identity especially with tax and pension services but also other more mundane agencies that use government ID databases to verify applications for different things. A digital ID would have cut through all the hoops and de lays they faced - but if you have to be in the digital system already to get one….?

It wasn’t enough to make me support the idea, but would added to the other side of the scales.

If digital ID was intended to make life easier, simpler and more legitimately integrated I would be more open to it - but most of the arguments in favour seem to be about control and exclusion, not inclusion and enabling. It fits with the ever shifting rules on ID checks for voting, which seem to me to be about excluding people who are transitory, chaotic or partly off grid - people unlikely to support the traditional parties of government.

[stevo]

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The main gripe ive seen is people not liking the fact that Euan Blair's company is (possibly) involved.

If so, that stinks. Shades of Baroness Mone and the PPE scandal.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

There's lots of 'could's in there.

The main gripe ive seen is people not liking the fact that Euan Blair's company is (possibly) involved.

Right wing conspiracy nut jobs most of them

[JamesWales]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

Right wing conspiracy nut jobs most of them

You need to give the "right-wing" button on your keyboard a break.

This is an issue that has opposition (and support) across the spectrum. Corbyn has stated opposition, as has Ed Davey as has Kemi Badenoch, as has Nigel Farage.

[truthpaste]

Re: Mandatory Digital ID Cards

I'm really amused that people think they will have a choice in the matter, Sweden and other parts of the world have trialed the ultimate in-body chip ID system for years; this news has been around for over 20 years in secular circles and spoken of way longer in ancient documents even down to the locations in the human body.