Manchester terrorist attack.

[the other bob wilson]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx2703lnww4t

[jon1959]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

From what has been reported so far this is a clear anti-Semitic terror attack on Jewish people just because they are Jewish.

It is tragic and disgusting.

It is also a gift to the Israeli government, Starmer and Badenoch, and all the Israeli cheerleaders in the UK and elsewhere.

The continuing mass murders in Gaza weren't getting any MSM coverage anyway - already displaced by the 'Trump plan' although brought back into focus by the flotilla.

But now the media attention will all be on the Manchester atrocity.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

From what has been reported so far this is a clear anti-Semitic terror attack on Jewish people just because they are Jewish.

It is tragic and disgusting.

It is also a gift to the Israeli government, Starmer and Badenoch, and all the Israeli cheerleaders in the UK and elsewhere.

The continuing mass murders in Gaza weren't getting any MSM coverage anyway - already displaced by the 'Trump plan' although brought back into focus by the flotilla.

But now the media attention will all be on the Manchester atrocity.

You should've stopped after your second line. The rest of it just makes you sound more disappointed about what this will mean.

[Packerman]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

You should've stopped after your second line. The rest of it just makes you sound more disappointed about what this will mean.

Just what I was thinking.

[Tuerto]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

You should've stopped after your second line. The rest of it just makes you sound more disappointed about what this will mean.

I think what jon is saying is that all of those he mentioned will use this murderous situation as a way of justifying what is happening in Palestine. Jon's views are sincere, the people's that he mentioned aren't. RIP to those that were murdered. It's sickening.

[jon1959]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

You should've stopped after your second line. The rest of it just makes you sound more disappointed about what this will mean.

I am disgusted by the attack.

I am disappointed (too tame a word) by the way it is being used by Netanyahu and his echoes.

He was out there within minutes to suggest that recognition of a Palestinian state and opposition to genocide contributed to what happened in Manchester.

Do you have a problem with holding two thoughts in your head at once? Or is it that thinking about another 45 victims in Gaxa on the same day as thinking about the victims in Manchester is (what?) disrespectful?

I was commenting on the media coverage and the political exploitation of the event. Sorry if that offends you.

[jon1959]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

Just what I was thinking.

I’m shocked.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

I am disgusted by the attack.

I am disappointed (too tame a word) by the way it is being used by Netanyahu and his echoes.

He was out there within minutes to suggest that recognition of a Palestinian state and opposition to genocide contributed to what happened in Manchester.

Do you have a problem with holding two thoughts in your head at once? Or is it that thinking about another 45 victims in Gaxa on the same day as thinking about the victims in Manchester is (what?) disrespectful?

I was commenting on the media coverage and the political exploitation of the event. Sorry if that offends you.

I wasn't offended. (You seem a bit touchy, mind). I was pointing out your obvious disappointment and derisive comments about gifts and "Israeli cheerleaders". People have been killed in another terrorist attack in this country. What do you think the media is going to focus on on the day of the event?

[jon1959]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

I wasn't offended. (You seem a bit touchy, mind). I was pointing out your obvious disappointment and derisive comments about gifts and "Israeli cheerleaders". People have been killed in another terrorist attack in this country. What do you think the media is going to focus on on the day of the event?

The media are of course focussing on the events - but they are also giving major coverage to the 'political response' where Netanyahu and Sa'ar are prominent. The media are able (in their own way) to combine attention to a terrorist attack with the way domestic and international politicians have responded. As this is a football message board and not a condolence book, maybe we can do the same?

[JamesWales]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

We all knew the next attack would come from someone who marched with the free Palestine lot rather than the Tommy Robinson lot.

What a historical change.

[Dave Blue]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

The media are of course focussing on the events - but they are also giving major coverage to the 'political response' where Netanyahu and Sa'ar are prominent. The media are able (in their own way) to combine attention to a terrorist attack with the way domestic and international politicians have responded. As this is a football message board and not a condolence book, maybe we can do the same?

You are totally correct. Out they come tomorrow, the Mail and Telegraph blaming Starmer for the attack.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

The media are of course focussing on the events - but they are also giving major coverage to the 'political response' where Netanyahu and Sa'ar are prominent. The media are able (in their own way) to combine attention to a terrorist attack with the way domestic and international politicians have responded. As this is a football message board and not a condolence book, maybe we can do the same?

The media are going to ask prominent figures for their response. These figures are now, according to you, Netanyahu and Sa'ar, even though earlier you said Starmer, Badenoch and Israeli cheerleaders everywhere. I've just checked on the BBC news website - Netanyahu and Sa'ar aren't even on the front page.

If you want to talk about the political response that's up to you. I'm saying your "critique" of the political response is riddled with disappointment that your footing on the moral high ground is not as firm as you'd like.

[JamesWales]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

You are totally correct. Out they come tomorrow, the Mail and Telegraph blaming Starmer for the attack.

Heres an idea. Don't demonise the Mail and Telegraph.

If you want to demonise groups on here, look to those that promote the kind of views this guy may have been influenced by

[jon1959]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

The media are going to ask prominent figures for their response. These figures are now, according to you, Netanyahu and Sa'ar, even though earlier you said Starmer, Badenoch and Israeli cheerleaders everywhere. I've just checked on the BBC news website - Netanyahu and Sa'ar aren't even on the front page.

If you want to talk about the political response that's up to you. I'm saying your "critique" of the political response is riddled with disappointment that your footing on the moral high ground is not as firm as you'd like.

My critique is ‘riddled’ with frustration that an atrocity in Manchester will be used (by Netanyahu, Sa’ar, Starmer and Badenoch) to deflect from the continuing genocide in Gaza. How you use this murderous incident as a comment on a supposed ‘moral high ground’ is another sad outcome of this shocking incident.

Anti semitic terror attacks have nothing to do with the Palestine solidarity movement. It should be, and has been, condemned from the Palestine solidarity movement and from the British muslim community (although they have no more responsibility to do so than you or me).

The Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister of a terrorist state are denouncing terrorism (but only the terrorism they don’t commit themselves) and using the deaths and injuries in Manchester for their own political purposes. As reported by the BBC!

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Manchester terrorist attack.

Heres an idea. Don't demonise the Mail and Telegraph.

If you want to demonise groups on here, look to those that promote the kind of views this guy may have been influenced by

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2njqz8gg8o

The Mail and Telegraph front pages clearly go a stage further than the other papers - how are they trying to lower the temperature in this country with headlines like that? They’re pouring petrol on the flames just as the killer did yesterday. I can’t knock the blanket coverage of what happened yesterday, but it looks like, just as in Southport, it was the work of one man - while the enormous elephant in the room that is the now confirmed genocide in Gaza is being ignored in the manner it is by major politicians in Europe and the USA, my surprise is that we’re not seeing more incidents like this.