Has the Sir resigned yet

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

I mean, it's the one thing lefties like myself and Reformers can agree on, Starmer is absolute wank and needed to be gone a while ago.

They are trying to get Randy Andy in, aren't they?

[Wales-Bales]

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Starmer has to resign and there has to be a major rethink by all parties other than the Tories to keep the Far Right out in the next General Election.

The UK is heading towards being a frightening place to live. To be fair I cant stand the bloke but Frog Face has played a blinder. Nothing sticks.

Him in number 10 Trump in Washington. Netanyahu.

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Nick Griffin Immigration?藍

So you would choose to live in a frightening place just to keep reform out?

[Heathblue]

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So you would choose to live in a frightening place just to keep reform out?

Has anyone inquired how Gary Neville is coping, he should be OK. Knowing that Sir Kier is determined to carry on and will not let the country go downhill, bless him.

[Parti Mellow]

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Why do people threaten to leave a Country when an alternative opinion to theirs gains popularity?

[Eric Cartman]

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Why do people threaten to leave a Country when an alternative opinion to theirs gains popularity?

Usually the right it's due to having to pay some more tax and the left is because they don't want to be associated with whatever they expect to come next.

That tends to be what you see when people give their reasoning.

[Eric Cartman]

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Starmer has to resign and there has to be a major rethink by all parties other than the Tories to keep the Far Right out in the next General Election.

The UK is heading towards being a frightening place to live. To be fair I cant stand the bloke but Frog Face has played a blinder. Nothing sticks.

Him in number 10 Trump in Washington. Netanyahu.

Tommy 10 names Chancellor?

Nick Griffin Immigration?��

That would have to begin with the end of the the purity contest on the left + centre left which, judging by this forum, isn't going anywhere.

[Coyote]

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So you would choose to live in a frightening place just to keep reform out?

The most frightening thing about the UK is the continued austerity and degradation of public services and neglected cities and towns. They've been failed by neoliberal austerity and hyper-capitalism since the Thatcher age.

Reform's solution...is to bring in even more aggressive capitalism, cut more public services and pin the blame on immigration instead of on the avaricious elite class and financiers who turned the UK away from production jobs and into a service economy.

Am I getting through to you by saying this? Even if you want to argue about the economics of immigration (a fair argument), it's not what Reform are interested in. They want to cut more than Edward Scissorshands, and parts of the country will eventually resemble the favelas of Brazil without the beautiful tropical climate. This is why leftists do not like Reform or the Tories, plus the amount of damage they'll cause to a lot of people who want to live peaceful, law-abiding lives in the UK simply based on ethnic and cultural background. You might catch a few bad eggs, but you'll be screwing over more decent people than addressing bad people statistically.

Don't even get me started on Starmer's sabotage of Labour post-Corbyn.

[JamesWales]

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The most frightening thing about the UK is the continued austerity and degradation of public services and neglected cities and towns. They've been failed by neoliberal austerity and hyper-capitalism since the Thatcher age.

Reform's solution...is to bring in even more aggressive capitalism, cut more public services and pin the blame on immigration instead of on the avaricious elite class and financiers who turned the UK away from production jobs and into a service economy.

Am I getting through to you by saying this? Even if you want to argue about the economics of immigration (a fair argument), it's not what Reform are interested in. They want to cut more than Edward Scissorshands, and parts of the country will eventually resemble the favelas of Brazil without the beautiful tropical climate. This is why leftists do not like Reform or the Tories, plus the amount of damage they'll cause to a lot of people who want to live peaceful, law-abiding lives in the UK simply based on ethnic and cultural background. You might catch a few bad eggs, but you'll be screwing over more decent people than addressing bad people statistically.

Don't even get me started on Starmer's sabotage of Labour post-Corbyn.

Is what you are saying true? Are we different to other countries? Do we have aggressive capitalism? Why wouldn't very high immigration be playing it's part? Do Reform really want to cut everything?

The issue generally is about sustainability. Social, financial, public services etc. I don't think there's an appetite for slashing coats. Sunderland etc isn't voting Reform for endless austerity.

[goats]

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Has anyone inquired how Gary Neville is coping, he should be OK. Knowing that Sir Kier is determined to carry on and will not let the country go downhill, bless him.

He won’t quit and let the uk plummet? Jeez…talk about living in a different bubble….its already half way there you clown, check your welfare bill over income tax for starters….its quite incredible how blinkered these people are, surrounded by yes men to scared to tell them the truth I guess.

[JamesWales]

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One thing that I do think is massive now, is the next two years. Labour have an enormous majority. The way things look, politics is splintering. May not even be a UK by the end of the next parliament.

Its now or never. Labour HAVE to deliver

[Coyote]

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Is what you are saying true? Are we different to other countries? Do we have aggressive capitalism? Why wouldn't very high immigration be playing it's part? Do Reform really want to cut everything?

Yes, it's true. I can share statistics, but statistically, simply throwing statistics at a person is unlikely to change their mind, so I tend to not go that route. Ask yourself why CEO's who actively make the world a worse place get to enjoy billions whilst hard-working people are left with the scraps because they don't want to exploit the economic system to their advantage. And Reform have made no secret of their austerity agenda, Farage himself admires Thatcherism and has said or demonstrated nothing that he would actually invest in the public good (remember the 350 million a week lie during Brexit about the NHS pushed by Aaron Banks, financier of Reform? That was flagrantly, indefatigably proven as a lie for the record).

The issue generally is about sustainability. Social, financial, public services etc. I don't think there's an appetite for slashing coats. Sunderland etc isn't voting Reform for endless austerity.

Sunderland aren't voting Reform for austerity, as far as I can tell. They're not getting the full story unfortunately and view immigration as the biggest problem due to a scaremongering campaign lead by those who want an excuse to engage with further austerity. They have been voting against their class interests, and yes, Labour have failed them due to Blairite neoliberalism, but the problem is, Reform are that much worse. Corbynism was sabotaged from within when they attempted to move the party in a more leftist position, and you're seeing the same thing happen to Polanski in the Greens now too.

Bear in mind, if you think Corbyn and Polanski are radical-leftists, you've never spoken with a Leninist. They make even me tell them to cool down.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Why do people threaten to leave a Country when an alternative opinion to theirs gains popularity?

The far right have been doing that for years

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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He won’t quit and let the uk plummet? Jeez…talk about living in a different bubble….its already half way there you clown, check your welfare bill over income tax for starters….its quite incredible how blinkered these people are, surrounded by yes men to scared to tell them the truth I guess.

Where have you been for 14 years with this rising immigration and welfare thing then ?

It didnt start under starmer , as utterly useless as he is

[Dorcus]

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Is what you are saying true? Are we different to other countries? Do we have aggressive capitalism? Why wouldn't very high immigration be playing it's part? Do Reform really want to cut everything?

The issue generally is about sustainability. Social, financial, public services etc. I don't think there's an appetite for slashing coats. Sunderland etc isn't voting Reform for endless austerity.

Sunderland is hardly an example of political shrewdness.

You know yourself it easy to fool anyone with the spectre of the scapegoat. It's worked for time immemorial and in more than competent hands it works every time.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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Where have you been for 14 years with this rising immigration and welfare thing then ?

It didnt start under starmer , as utterly useless as he is

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