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  • #31
    Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
    One thing that I do think is massive now, is the next two years. Labour have an enormous majority. The way things look, politics is splintering. May not even be a UK by the end of the next parliament.

    Its now or never. Labour HAVE to deliver
    Deliver what?

    From many years of reading your posts I know that what you want from this government is not what I want.

    ‘Delivery’ is the most pointless and typical Starmerism - utterly depressing and vacuous!

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    • #32
      Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
      The far right have been doing that for years
      Did Phil Collins fack off to Switzerland in the end - when he thought he might have to paybsome UK tax?

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      • #33
        Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

        Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
        Did Phil Collins fack off to Switzerland in the end - when he thought he might have to paybsome UK tax?
        No sadly hes still alive and living in the uk

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        • #34
          Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

          Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
          Sunderland is hardly an example of political shrewdness.

          You know yourself it easy to fool anyone with the spectre of the scapegoat. It's worked for time immemorial and in more than competent hands it works every time.
          You miss the point. Working class areas are voting Reform in many cases. Instead of dismissing it, sneering it or worse. Its important to understand it.

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          • #35
            Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
            You miss the point. Working class areas are voting Reform in many cases. Instead of dismissing it, sneering it or worse. Its important to understand it.
            I'm not missing the point at all. You are caught up in a right wing lie.

            What is actually happening is that communities of a certain demographic are being fed lies and gobbling them up. Because they are at the base strata of economic delivery they are open to any snake oil system and are open to simple answers.

            People like our Nigel have a different agenda which is to pilf as much money as he can out of hapless fools

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            • #36
              Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

              Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
              No sadly hes still alive and living in the uk
              Alive and Kicking was Simple Minds Shirley? Having said that most of them voted Reform

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              • #37
                Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                I'm not missing the point at all. You are caught up in a right wing lie.

                What is actually happening is that communities of a certain demographic are being fed lies and gobbling them up. Because they are at the base strata of economic delivery they are open to any snake oil system and are open to simple answers.

                People like our Nigel have a different agenda which is to pilf as much money as he can out of hapless fools
                Ah of course. They are just stupid. Gotcha! You should go to their communities to tell them perhaps?

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                • #38
                  Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                  Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                  Ah of course. They are just stupid. Gotcha! You should go to their communities to tell them perhaps?
                  I think you are being deliberately disingenuous. I'd bet you know about psychology, IQ, lost aspirations etc. I still got faith in that you can come up with something better. Keep on Googling

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                  • #39
                    Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                    Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                    I think you are being deliberately disingenuous. I'd bet you know about psychology, IQ, lost aspirations etc. I still got faith in that you can come up with something better. Keep on Googling
                    Surely the good people of working class cities like Sunderland, Barnsley, Wakefield et al could just have a different perspective from you? A different lived experience, that you could listen to and learn from, instead of assuming they are wrong about their own lives? Just an idea.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                      Surely the good people of working class cities like Sunderland, Barnsley, Wakefield et al could just have a different perspective from you? A different lived experience, that you could listen to and learn from, instead of assuming they are wrong about their own lives? Just an idea.
                      A poor idea and you know what's going on which is manipulation.

                      We all know what you want (it would make more sense if your tax code has been raised) but don't divorce yourself from reality!

                      People in Sunderland have had a bad deal and they have been fed bullshit. It's a pity they have chosen to accept it.

                      Common sense glaringly tells them capitalism will never work for them so why vote Reform?

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                      • #41
                        Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                        Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                        A poor idea and you know what's going on which is manipulation.

                        We all know what you want (it would make more sense if your tax code has been raised) but don't divorce yourself from reality!

                        People in Sunderland have had a bad deal and they have been fed bullshit. It's a pity they have chosen to accept it.

                        Common sense glaringly tells them capitalism will never work for them so why vote Reform?
                        You seem to have the answers. How should they have voted?

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                        • #42
                          Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                          Whew you think he couldn't sink any lower

                          1.) Goldfinger Gordan Brown
                          2.) P.I.E. Harriot Harman

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                          • #43
                            Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                            Deliver what?

                            From many years of reading your posts I know that what you want from this government is not what I want.

                            ‘Delivery’ is the most pointless and typical Starmerism - utterly depressing and vacuous!
                            I want a better quality of life for everyone, I suspect you want the same you are just far more wedded to an ideology in an almost religious sense.

                            They have to deliver in that sense. Quality of life. A stronger economy, more affordable life, more affordable and stable housing, a better quality of life, more peaceful, lower crime, etc etc.

                            We nearly all want the same outcomes, so if you don't want the same as me then god knows what you want?

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                            • #44
                              Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                              London MP Catharine West has told the Cabinet, either you challenge Starmer by Monday or I will. She’ll probably not even get the level of support needed to formally stand against him, but just the gesture will be very damaging for the PM and, hopefully, will get others thinking they need to move against him now.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Has the Sir resigned yet

                                Love the way Starmer refuses to resign, as though it’s showing some strength and determination. He’s a clueless weak clown who would be doing the whole of the UK a favour if he naffed off.

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