The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

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Regarding the Daily Caller, here are all the court records used in their reporting of the Awan IT story. You're a smart guy, why don't you go through them yourself, or aren't facts your thing?

Documents

[Wales-Bales]

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FISA warrant application supports Nunes memo

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fisa-warrant-application-supports-nunes-memo

[Wales-Bales]

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Judicial Watch Obtains Carter Page FISA Court Documents

The FISA docs are heavily redacted but seem to confirm FBI & DOJ misled the courts in withholding that Clinton & DNC were behind the “intelligence” used to persuade the courts to approve FISA warrants targeting Trump’s team. Given the corruption surrounding the FISA abuses, President Trump should intervene and declassify the heavily redacted FISA material.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-obtains-carter-page-fisa-court-documents/

[Wales-Bales]

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[Heisenberg]

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I'm going to quickly dip my toe into this one to make one point...

Wales Bales, you always pick and choose articles/stories that back up your claim but ignore anything to the contrary and will accuse the source of bias or being outright phoney.

You are impossible to debate with and, like the other regular conspiracy theorists on here (let's not kid ourselves, that's exactly what you are), when questioned about your stance you revert to talking in riddles or using deflection tactics (like responding with another question) instead of giving an actual answer.

I'm surprised that posters still respond to you.

[Wales-Bales]

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I'm going to quickly dip my toe into this one to make one point...

Wales Bales, you always pick and choose articles/stories that back up your claim but ignore anything to the contrary and will accuse the source of bias or being outright phoney.

You are impossible to debate with and, like the other regular conspiracy theorists on here (let's not kid ourselves, that's exactly what you are), when questioned about your stance you revert to talking in riddles or using deflection tactics (like responding with another question) instead of giving an actual answer.

I'm surprised that posters still respond to you.

That is because the articles/stories I post are based off original documents I have mostly seen, as opposed to the phoney stories which quote anonymous sources. It's quite easy to read the actual documents, and then find a news organisation that reports them accurately. I'd love to include a broader selection of outlets, but unfortunately many of the news organisations are part of the alternative narrative game. What is most remarkable is that many people will actually believe the stuff that distorts the truth. A case in point is the Trump Russia Collusion, which is based on made-up intelligence that has been legitimised by the system. I note with interest that your favourite news organisations still haven't acknowledged this fact.

[Wales-Bales]

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AFTER March 17th, 2017, journalist Ali Watkins held a leaked copy of the Carter Page FISA application while she worked at both Buzzfeed and the New York Times. She knew the substance, the specific details, of the actual FISA application; and as a consequence so too did her employer(s). However, despite this actual knowledge Ms. Watkins and her colleagues continued to push a narrative, and write articles, that were factually false against the FISA application evidence she was holding.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/07/23/indicted-senate-staffer-james-wolfe-leaked-a-2017-copy-of-full-fisa-warrant-against-carter-page-to-reporter-ali-watkins/

*All source documents are provided with this analysis, so you can read them for yourself

[Wales-Bales]

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^^^^^^ Over to you Heisenberg, if you are going to come on here making fanciful claims, it's time to roll up your sleeves and prove them. I've helped you out by giving you access to all the source documents the media work from, (excluding documents that are leaked to colluding journalists). Your task is a simple one, you merely have to show where the above analysis in incorrect, hence proving your conspiracy theory statement.

[lardy]

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Orwell: the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

Trump: what you're seeing and reading is not what is happening.


Let's remember that the FBI and all intelligence services on both sides of the Atlantic, and the media on both sides of the Atlantic, and your eyes and ears are all lying to you. Trump is telling the truth.

[Wales-Bales]

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Clapper says Obama is responsible

[Wales-Bales]

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Orwell: the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

Trump: what you're seeing and reading is not what is happening.


Let's remember that the FBI and all intelligence services on both sides of the Atlantic, and the media on both sides of the Atlantic, and your eyes and ears are all lying to you. Trump is telling the truth.

Don't worry, you'll get there eventually

[the other bob wilson]

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Don't worry, you'll get there eventually

But is "there" a place we should really be aiming to get to?

[lardy]

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But is "there" a place we should really be aiming to get to?

He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

[Wales-Bales]

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But is "there" a place we should really be aiming to get to?

The truth?

[Wales-Bales]

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He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

I looks like you've got yourself a copy of 1984, that's a good start! Now see if you can identify any police state activities which have occured around the world during the past 5-10 years, especially in places where you least expected to find it. You know, things like spying on political opposition, etc..