The Donald Trump thread

[the other bob wilson]

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I'm going to give some credit to Trump here. It looks like the turnout at the mid term elections was very high (I've just heard on the telly that it may well be the highest for half a century) - this is primarily down to one person. Yes, a proportion of those who voted this time who don't normally bother probably did so because they loathe him, but anyone or anything which gets more of those eligible to cast their votes should be appreciated, so, fair play, to Trump - whatever else he is, he definitely makes people more likely to participate.

[lardy]

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Imagine how excited he would be if he hadn't lost the House and increased the Senate majority from bare to very small.

Received so many Congratulations from so many on our Big Victory last night, including from foreign nations (friends) that were waiting me out, and hoping, on Trade Deals. Now we can all get back to work and get things done!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2018

[lardy]

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He's taking it well to be fair.

To any of the pundits or talking heads that do not give us proper credit for this great Midterm Election, just remember two words - FAKE NEWS!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2018

[Wales-Bales]

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Imagine how excited he would be if he hadn't lost the House and increased the Senate majority from bare to very small.

Chill out dude, Obama lost 69 house seats during the midterms, and he also lost the Senate! The next two years are going to be lots of fun with the Donny, Adam and Nancy show

[Wales-Bales]

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AG Jeff Sessions has just resigned.

[Wales-Bales]

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Donald Trump Mk.II

[CardiffIrish2]

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Donald Trump Mk.II

Nice sunburn Donny, reminds me of ....

https://goo.gl/images/jS2VAM

[Wales-Bales]

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Mueller has got a new boss

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeff-sessions-resigns-today-2018-11-07-live-updates/

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Mueller has got a new boss

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeff-se...-live-updates/

Is this a good or a bad thing?

[Wales-Bales]

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Is this a good or a bad thing?

I have no idea. What's happened to Rod Rosenstein? I was starting to like him.

[life on mars]

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Trump has had a successful result in my view , the Senate approves all the judiciary appointments, and they are elected on 6 year terms ,whereas the house is every 2 so more suspectable to change .

Trump will now probaly use a blame culture on any failure in passing laws /bills on the house refusing to pass those laws/bills , that in his words "are making America great".

He could create even greater difficulties here on in.

If the Democrats go for impeachment route that might back fire , as voters will see that objective as nothing but wasteful , personal ,and turn voters eyes to the rich east coast elite ,mantra again, As Trump will bang on about job losses, immigration, democratics not wanting to fund the army ,Iran , etc etc .

The old Trumpness has had a relatively good result in my view, and is not going away anytime soon .

[lardy]

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Trump has had a successful result in my view , the Senate approves all the judiciary appointments, and they are elected on 6 year terms ,whereas the house is every 2 so more suspectable to change .

Trump will now probaly use a blame culture on any failure in passing laws /bills on the house refusing to pass those laws/bills , that in his words "are making America great".

He could create even greater difficulties here on in.

If the Democrats go for impeachment route that might back fire , as voters will see that objective as nothing but wasteful , personal ,and turn voters eyes to the rich east coast elite ,mantra again, As Trump will bang on about job losses, immigration, democratics not wanting to fund the army ,Iran , etc etc .

The old Trumpness has had a relatively good result in my view, and is not going away anytime soon .

I'm not quite sure you've got that right. Yes they do have 6 year terms but that doesn't mean the Republicans have tied up their majority for 6 years. Only nine Republican seats were available in this election and 26 Democrat/Independent (out of 100 in total) so a Democrat flip was always unlikely. The next elections will be 2020 when another batch are up for grabs, and the Democrats picked up millions more votes than the Republicans in this election (yes I know the popular vote means nothing but there are still clues there).

I agree that he has more flexibility to use the Senate for the courts. But if he could get Kavanaugh on then strengthening a bit isn't that much more beneficial. He absolutely will use the blame game; he was playing that game when the Republicans controlled everything.

Losing the House isn't good for him, but it won't lead to impeachment. No chance they'll go for that unless something major happens. It can probably lead to proper investigations though.

The Democrats have a foothold now, more than they had before, but they could have done with bigger gains. Cannot see how this was successful for Trump though. Could have been worse is the best I can say.

[the other bob wilson]

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I'm not quite sure you've got that right. Yes they do have 6 year terms but that doesn't mean the Republicans have tied up their majority for 6 years. Only nine Republican seats were available in this election and 26 Democrat/Independent (out of 100 in total) so a Democrat flip was always unlikely. The next elections will be 2020 when another batch are up for grabs, and the Democrats picked up millions more votes than the Republicans in this election (yes I know the popular vote means nothing but there are still clues there).

I agree that he has more flexibility to use the Senate for the courts. But if he could get Kavanaugh on then strengthening a bit isn't that much more beneficial. He absolutely will use the blame game; he was playing that game when the Republicans controlled everything.

Losing the House isn't good for him, but it won't lead to impeachment. No chance they'll go for that unless something major happens. It can probably lead to proper investigations though.

The Democrats have a foothold now, more than they had before, but they could have done with bigger gains. Cannot see how this was successful for Trump though. Could have been worse is the best I can say.

That's my understanding as well - I was watching something yesterday where it was said that the cycle would be much more sympathetic for the Democrats in 2020 than it was in 2018.

Back in the summer I read a couple of prediction pieces from the American press which agreed that the Democrats would take the House of Representatives, but not the Senate - neither of them predicted that there would be a "blue wave", more a much less spectacular transference of power. Looking at it now, I'd say they got it exactly right - they also said it would be pretty much as you were in the Senate.

Hardly a disaster for Trump then, but to hear him almost claiming yesterday that losing the House of Representatives was part of some sort of master plan was taking things a bit far. The Democrats have to be in a better place than they were before Tuesday, but the vote offered further confirmation, if it were needed, that Trump can count on what seems to be rock solid support from a substantial minority of eligible voters - he's going to take some beating in two years time.

[Rjk]

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What times we live in.

An American journalist asks some difficult questions to trump in a press conference, an intern tries to snatch the mic off him but is unable to grab it.
Later we hear that said journalist will no longer be allowed access to the white house press events, because he "laid his hands on" the intern.
There are two videos of the event currently circulating, the original, which appears to show no significant contact between the journalist and intern, and another that surfaced on a right wing conspiracy site that has been subtly altered to make the contact look worse. The latter has been shared by the white house press secretary.

5 years ago if you wrote all of that in a fictional account of a white house press conference it would seem too unrealistic to be believable. Now it is actually happening.

[the other bob wilson]

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I posted this before on here (possibly in this thread) - how many of the fourteen characteristics of Facism listed here are found in Trump's government?

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

One which definitely isn't there for me is a controlled mass media, but it seems they are trying to do something about that! Truthfully, I'd say between eight and ten of those characteristics could be applies to the so called leader of the free world.