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They are communists!Originally posted by the other bob wilson View PostComment
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Of course they are dear......Originally posted by Wales-Bales View PostComment
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Originally posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post“We all know that AOC and this crowd are a bunch of Communists, they hate Israel, they hate our own Country, they’re calling the guards along our Border (the Border Patrol Agents) Concentration Camp Guards, they accuse people who support Israel as doing it for the Benjamin’s,....
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 15, 2019Comment
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Ok I’m convinced now, because Donnie has had a hissy fit on Twitter.....Originally posted by Wales-Bales View PostComment
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It's funny, cos now the Dems & the media will have to defend the commies, even though the polls are already against them!Originally posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
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Anyone commented on Trump telling four Americans to go back to their country because they were a) people of colour and b) critical of actions carried out in the name of the USA?
The following analysis seems to sum it up quite nicely:
(https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48997008)Remember how Mexicans were Rapists and Drug dealers, how there were "good people" on both sides of the argument when white supremacists marched in Charlottesville, and how the President didn't see why America should allow more people in from "shithole" countries in Africa.
What sort of world where people vote for a person so happy to use racist language as part of their political strategy? I wouldn't even mind having a Republican President for four more years as long as it's not this faux-Republican, racist, twitter-bot.Comment
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He’s got a big base that think he’s some sort of Demigod and no Republican wants to challenge him therefore he feels emboldened.Originally posted by surge View Post
I personally think he’s a colossal loathsome prick but it’s working for him.....sadly I should say.Comment
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Do you agree that Israel are 'victims of the entire region'?Originally posted by Wales-Bales View PostComment
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Those are Senator Lindsey Graham's words, not President Trump.Originally posted by Eric Cartman View PostComment
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Agree. I can imagine that there a lot of red-necked, "hunt 'em, shoot 'em, hang 'em" xenophobic yanks over there who idolise him because he says what they are already thinking. What a country, what a political system!Originally posted by CardiffIrish2 View PostComment
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Boris f**king Johnson has even condemned Trump about his racist attack on the American Democratic representatives - which side will Wales Bales choose in this argument?
"Mr Johnson said: "If you are the leader of a great, multi-racial, multi-cultural society, you simply cannot use that kind of language about sending people back to where they came from.
"That went out decades and decades ago and thank heavens for that."
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Mr Johnson said: "I simply can't understand how a leader of that country can come to say it."
Pressed again, he added: "You can take from what I said what I think about President Trump's words."Comment
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Isreal bashing ( redux) careful there's a left theme developing again ,must all be reading from the same agenda politics.Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
Say it enough times it will become engrained I guess ?Comment
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tuesday july 16 2019
MELANIE PHILLIPS
july 15 2019, 5:00pm, the times
Trump is playing the Democrats at their own race game
melanie phillips
President’s hostile tweets turned his opponents’ obsession with identity politics against them
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When I was a child, my mother and I were told in a supermarket to “go back where you came from”. This puzzled me greatly. My mother and I were born and bred in London. It was my first experience of anti-Jewish prejudice. The bigotry was unambiguous. Because our assailant perceived we were Jews, she was telling us we didn’t belong in Britain.
Now a storm has erupted in America over tweets by President Trump in which he apparently took aim at four young ethnic minority congresswomen: Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley. They are known as The Squad because of the way they operate as a far-left minority caucus.
For months, American politics has been convulsed over Trump’s attempts to stop illegal immigration across the Mexican border. In his tweet, Trump called out unnamed “progressives”, who “originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe”, for “loudly and viciously” telling America how its government should be run. “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came?”
This language was undeniably offensive, unacceptable and — if he was indeed referring to all four women — factually wrong. Only Ilhan Omar, who was born in Somalia, is not native to America. For the other three, who are variously of Palestinian, Puerto Rican and African-American heritage, America is where they were born.
Trump may have been thinking particularly of Omar but tweeted with his customary disregard for detail. Even so, by any normal standards this was dismaying behaviour by a president. But this is not a normal president. He uses offensive language to speak in a kind of code to his supporters, and to set a trap for his foes who fail to understand the code and promptly fall into the snare.
This is precisely what has happened. The Democratic house speaker, Nancy Pelosi, said Trump’s tweet showed he’d always planned on “making America white again”.
No he hadn’t; nor had he been making a point in his tweet about race or colour. For his critics have omitted to note that, after telling these congresswomen to go and sort out their presumed countries of origin, he said: “Then come back and tell us how to do it.”
In other words, his point was about their behaviour, specifically their opposition to his “racist” immigration policy. Clearly, he considers this akin to treachery from politicians who, between them, have taken positions that are anti-American, anti-white and anti-Jewish. What’s more, he knows that millions of Americans will be thinking exactly the same thing.
Thus he further tweeted: “So sad to see the Democrats sticking up for people who speak so badly of our Country . . . Whenever confronted, they call their adversaries, including Nancy Pelosi, ‘RACIST’. Their disgusting language and the many terrible things they say about the United States must not be allowed to go unchallenged.”
Subsequently he doubled down again, asking: “When will the Radical Left Congresswomen apologise to our country . . . for the foul language they have used, and the terrible things they have said.”
It became plain that he was twisting the knife into the writhing body of the Democratic Party. He was using The Squad to ram home that the Democrats have been taken over by extremists. Indeed, for offensiveness it’s hard to beat Ocasio-Cortez, who called the US border detention centres “concentration camps”.
For bigotry, look no further than Omar, who has accused American Jews of dual loyalties and buying political influence in the interests of Israel. For anti-Americanism and playing the race card, there’s the support by Pressley and Tlaib for an article accusing the Declaration of Independence of being “sexist, racist and prejudiced”, not to mention Pressley’s own racially divisive remark that there’s “no need for black faces that don’t want to be a black voice”.
Now racial identity politics is consuming its own. Ocasio-Cortez has accused Nancy Pelosi of “singling out newly elected women of colour” simply because Pelosi finally lost patience with The Squad after they failed to vote last month for her border aid package.
Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, accused Democrats who backed this bill of “being hell-bent to do to black and brown people today what the old Southern Democrats did in the Forties”. Yet he in turn was attacked by the House Democratic caucus over his claim that congresswoman Sharice Davids had voted in ways that “enable a racist system”. Raged the caucus: “Why is he explicitly singling out a Native American woman of colour?”
The Democratic Party is now being boiled alive by the very racial politics it has encouraged.
This is the pot that Trump is now deftly stirring. Every time he is called racist, his poll numbers climb among the millions who decode such attacks on him as un-American treachery by those who want to destroy border controls and thus the very concept of citizenship. The insult is also being used so indiscriminately it has all but lost its meaning as a description of truly evil intent.
Trump is a man who plays the political game by completely different rules. Those who refuse to understand this will lose not just the people’s vote but the moral high ground, too.Comment
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I used to like Melanie Phillips - about 30/35 years ago when she was a fairly radical columnist specialising in education and Thatcher-baiting.
Then she did a complete flip in about 5 years (like Peter Hitchen and similar) and reinvented herself as Daily Mail Woman.
Not surprised you have quoted her latest attack on opponents of Trump. I do agree with her when she says 'Trump is a man who plays the political game by completely different rules' - but apart from that it is the usual bile.Comment
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