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    50 per cent tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminium, or should that be aluminum, now

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      Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
      50 per cent tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminium, or should that be aluminum, now
      now back to 25%

      we're always told that the markets like consistency and predictability, yet USA trade policy feels like it's being set by a wheel of fortune at the moment.
      I wonder what tomorrow will bring

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        But when will those damn eggs see a cheaper price tag?

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          The Texas megachurch founder and pastor Robert Morris has been indicted on five criminal counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child, from incidents that occurred in Oklahoma in the 1980s.

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          Morris was a member of Donald Trump’s spiritual advisory committee and Evangelical Executive Advisory Board during his first presidential term and part of an effort to mobilize conservatives and evangelicals in support of Trump’s 2024 presidential bid. He also hosted an appearance by Trump at Gateway church in June 2020.

          “So I want to thank Pastors Robert Morris and Steve Dulin. They’re great people,” Trump said at the appearance in 2020. Dulin, an elder at the church, resigned following an internal investigation of the abuse and how the church handled it. “Great people with a great reputation. I have to say that. Great reputation. And Gateway church – the team has been incredible in hosting us.”

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            Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pastor-charged

            The Texas megachurch founder and pastor Robert Morris has been indicted on five criminal counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child, from incidents that occurred in Oklahoma in the 1980s.

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            Morris was a member of Donald Trump’s spiritual advisory committee and Evangelical Executive Advisory Board during his first presidential term and part of an effort to mobilize conservatives and evangelicals in support of Trump’s 2024 presidential bid. He also hosted an appearance by Trump at Gateway church in June 2020.

            “So I want to thank Pastors Robert Morris and Steve Dulin. They’re great people,” Trump said at the appearance in 2020. Dulin, an elder at the church, resigned following an internal investigation of the abuse and how the church handled it. “Great people with a great reputation. I have to say that. Great reputation. And Gateway church – the team has been incredible in hosting us.”
            So, common courtesy doesn't exist in your world because everybody could potentially be an undiscovered rapist, pedo, murderer, etc?

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              Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
              So, common courtesy doesn't exist in your world because everybody could potentially be an undiscovered rapist, pedo, murderer, etc?
              No need to bring Epstein into this.

              Of course the Don didn't know who he was cuddling up to!

              Of course he didn't.

              He didn't?


              Maybe more about judgement and selected bed fellows than 'common courtesy'?

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                Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                No need to bring Epstein into this.

                Of course the Don didn't know who he was cuddling up to!

                Of course he didn't.

                He didn't?


                Maybe more about judgement and selected bed fellows than 'common courtesy'?
                I'm guessing there are far more undiscovered wrong uns than those who have already been discovered, so what is the solution? Abandon civil society and move to a low trust society where everybody is guilty until proved innocent? Or maybe they should just make points scoring a criminal offence

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                  Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                  I'm guessing there are far more undiscovered wrong uns than those who have already been discovered, so what is the solution? Abandon civil society and move to a low trust society where everybody is guilty until proved innocent? Or maybe they should just make points scoring a criminal offence
                  No need to guess Gluey.

                  Just triangulate - like I do.

                  You will get there in the end!

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                    Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                    No need to guess Gluey.

                    Just triangulate - like I do.

                    You will get there in the end!
                    Triangulation works, even if it takes 7 years for others to get it on some occasions!

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                      Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                      No need to guess Gluey.

                      Just triangulate - like I do.

                      You will get there in the end!
                      A certain section of pundits and thinkers seem to be ok with spreading unsubstantiated stories about democrats and liberal elites engaging in child trafficking and indecency.

                      Don't seem to like actual incidents being discussed when it's about their team!

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                        Trump doubling down on threat to annex Greenland.

                        Now saying NATO could be involved. He likes NATO now?

                        Grenlanders tell Trump to get lost!

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                          Everything else aside, it is staggering that the President of the USA openly talking about annexing a NATO territory is met by a collective shrug nowadays. The Canada talk is easier to shrug off, I don't think even he would invade Canada. But sending more and more soldiers to Greenland is something I can absolutely see him doing and I'm wondering at what point, if anybody, someone says no to him

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                            Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                            Everything else aside, it is staggering that the President of the USA openly talking about annexing a NATO territory is met by a collective shrug nowadays. The Canada talk is easier to shrug off, I don't think even he would invade Canada. But sending more and more soldiers to Greenland is something I can absolutely see him doing and I'm wondering at what point, if anybody, someone says no to him
                            I just don't think people believe it. It's part of policy to disrupt and rearrange things. One assumes as part of some global thinking, but who knows.

                            Tbf I can see why people despair at the the shrugging of shoulders to some of Trump's tweets, but I do think people can overeact to them too. He will normally tweet something contradictory within 24 hours so just need to wait a little.

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                              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                              I just don't think people believe it. It's part of policy to disrupt and rearrange things. One assumes as part of some global thinking, but who knows.

                              Tbf I can see why people despair at the the shrugging of shoulders to some of Trump's tweets, but I do think people can overeact to them too. He will normally tweet something contradictory within 24 hours so just need to wait a little.
                              I'm very sure that this is not how politicians and intelligence agencies in those and other countries see it.

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                                Originally posted by lardy View Post
                                I'm very sure that this is not how politicians and intelligence agencies in those and other countries see it.
                                I'm sure you are right!

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