This flight to Rwanda

[Lither_1927]

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[QUOTE=the other bob wilson;5311075]

Ah, those “native Brits” again that you’re so reluctant to identify - maybe if you told us what you meant by that it’s possible your views might not seem as, to use Rjk’s word, hilarious.

By the way, what’s going on with the reply with quote function?

I outlined it to Cyril in this thread Bob. Look back.

[lardy]

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Professor Coleman of Oxford University, a specialist in demographics. He predicted native British will be a minority by 2066. Personally i think it'll be a bit sooner. lardy The trend is, a decreasing population of native Brits, replaced by the 3rd world. It's only a matter time before the trend see's native Brits a minority in their own homelands. Do you agree, if not explain to me how the you think the trend will reverse. There's no logical reason why it would

Thanks for the name. He made that claim in 2010.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-britons-could-be-minority-by-2066-2137329.html

Now we're 12 years into the 56 year timescale he gave it (about a fifth of the way in). Do the figures back him up?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Professor Coleman of Oxford University, a specialist in demographics. He predicted native British will be a minority by 2066. Personally i think it'll be a bit sooner. lardy The trend is, a decreasing population of native Brits, replaced by the 3rd world. It's only a matter time before the trend see's native Brits a minority in their own homelands. Do you agree, if not explain to me how the you think the trend will reverse. There's no logical reason why it would

Professor Coleman is also a member of the Galton Institute, which exists to promote and publish eugenics. Do you really think such a person's opinion is valid as neutral?

[Dorcus]

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[QUOTE=jon1959;5311088]

Dorcus said he was not worried about Lither's prediction that Wales would become an Islamic state.

I didn't take that to mean he welcomed the idea of an Islamic state - but that the prediction was so nonsensical that he wasn't worried.

You took it to mean he was relaxed about the idea of an Islamic state governed from Cardiff. That seemed an odd interpretation of the exchange to me. Still does.

I don't think anyone in this thread has been making a case for the Taliban!

Some for the Ku Klux Klan, but not the Taliban.

I think you put it better than I could Jon. Yes it's not the sort of issue I lose sleep about. There an awful lot of more likely unpleasant issues we need to address.

[blue matt]

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Weird approach. The modern left is nothing more than a suicide cult.
So you're happy for Wales to become an islamic state then?

No but I don't worry about that either

[QUOTE=jon1959;5311088]

Dorcus said he was not worried about Lither's prediction that Wales would become an Islamic state.

I didn't take that to mean he welcomed the idea of an Islamic state - but that the prediction was so nonsensical that he wasn't worried.

You took it to mean he was relaxed about the idea of an Islamic state governed from Cardiff. That seemed an odd interpretation of the exchange to me. Still does.

I don't think anyone in this thread has been making a case for the Taliban!

Some for the Ku Klux Klan, but not the Taliban.

Lither is asking if Dorcus is "happy for Wales to become an islamic state"

Dorcus replies " No but I don't worry about that either "

I made my comment pointing out that a % of afghans wouldn't agree , I stand by my comment and explained it above, I am sure the part of society that the hardline Islamic state disapprove of ( I am going with Gays as a example ) would love to be in Wales with its fairly open minded members of society

[Lither_1927]

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Professor Coleman is also a member of the Galton Institute, which exists to promote and publish eugenics. Do you really think such a person's opinion is valid as neutral?

Firstly, where did the get the eugenics link from? The reason why i'm skeptical, i recently saw a published professor get accused of Eugenics for merely pointing biological differences between human groups and their biological propensity to different diseases. We are living in clown world where science comes second to woke ideology don't forget.

Secondly, play the ball not the man, if you disagree with an Oxford professor you better be across the data and the science of demographics. And not just smear him then expect to move on. Over to you...

[jon1959]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Coleman_(demographer)

He is also an advisor to Migration Watch UK which he helped to found, and is a member of the Galton Institute, formerly known as the Eugenics Society.

In 2013, Coleman's analysis said that White British people would be a minority in the UK around 2066 if current immigration trends continued.

Seems Coleman prefers 'white British' to 'native British'.

[Lither_1927]

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Thanks for the name. He made that claim in 2010.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-britons-could-be-minority-by-2066-2137329.html

Now we're 12 years into the 56 year timescale he gave it (about a fifth of the way in). Do the figures back him up?

Well last year alone Boris the con man, let in 1 million foriegn nationals. a level of immigration (net) 300.000 approx. As for where we are now, i'd say we are oncourse but a city the size of Cardiff are coming in each year. I think the prediction is sound and even if in the slim chance he was slightly out. The direction of travel is still demographic replacement, if you want to quibble about time frame crack on. He's an expert in demographics

[the other bob wilson]

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[QUOTE=Lither_1927;5311091]

I outlined it to Cyril in this thread Bob. Look back.

Cyril, did he, coz I can’t find anything.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Firstly, where did the get the eugenics link from? The reason why i'm skeptical, i recently saw a published professor get accused of Eugenics for merely pointing biological differences between human groups and their biological propensity to different diseases. We are living in clown world where science comes second to woke ideology don't forget.

Secondly, play the ball not the man, if you disagree with an Oxford professor you better be across the data and the science of demographics. And not just smear him then expect to move on. Over to you...

Do some research. Not only is Coleman a member of the institute, he was also an office holder when it was known as the Eugenics Society. He's been offered the opportunity to deny it and declined every time. He's apparently very open to Polish people coming over here but not black or Asian people.

Secondly, playing the man is important. If he's a blatant old racist, co-founder of Immigration Watch btw, why should I trust his data? Anyone can make up any old bollocks by using whatever data suits their argument, whether they're a professor or just a message board poster. Sometimes it is important to find out if there may be a raison d'être behind an opinion. Had a pro-immigration professor found startling evidence as Coleman had, I think we would take it seriously. If it's just an old racist, with a certain track record, who comes up with something to back up his own prejudices, then I'd regard those opinions as worthless.

[Lither_1927]

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Do some research. Not only is Coleman a member of the institute, he was also an office holder when it was known as the Eugenics Society. He's been offered the opportunity to deny it and declined every time. He's apparently very open to Polish people coming over here but not black or Asian people.

Secondly, playing the man is important. If he's a blatant old racist, co-founder of Immigration Watch btw, why should I trust his data? Anyone can make up any old bollocks by using whatever data suits their argument, whether they're a professor or just a message board poster. Sometimes it is important to find out if there may be a raison d'être behind an opinion. Had a pro-immigration professor found startling evidence as Coleman had, I think we would take it seriously. If it's just an old racist, with a certain track record, who comes up with something to back up his own prejudices, then I'd regard those opinions as worthless.

I've not looked deeply into him because google's algorithm is so woke it's hardly worth bothering wading through the hysteria. Cheddar man lies x 10

Eugenics can be an acceptance that biological differences exist between different human groups, for instance different groups get different illneses, south Asians get diabetes, Africans get sickle cell. You need to tell me what Eugenics mean specific to Professor Coleman.
Also, i think you're doing a disservice to his expertise in demographics at one of the best seats of learning in the world. It's highly unlikely he's making up any old bollocks come on, How can you deny our demographic replacement it's clear Britain is experiencing massive demographic change. I haven't seen anyone even try to deny that...

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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Firstly, where did the get the eugenics link from? The reason why i'm skeptical, i recently saw a published professor get accused of Eugenics for merely pointing biological differences between human groups and their biological propensity to different diseases. We are living in clown world where science comes second to woke ideology don't forget.

Secondly, play the ball not the man, if you disagree with an Oxford professor you better be across the data and the science of demographics. And not just smear him then expect to move on. Over to you...

Another reply to your second point.

During Brexit there were wild claims from Prof Patrick Minford, professor of economics at Cardiff Uni about how much better off we were going to be after Brexit. He was one of the few predicting such things. He was also an adviser to the Thatcher government, a right wing economist, another totally opposed to immigration. His Brexit predictions have mainly been utter bollocks, as they were always likely to be if you have a set agenda.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I've not looked deeply into him because google's algorithm is so woke it's hardly worth bothering wading through the hysteria. Cheddar man lies x 10

Eugenics can be an acceptance that biological differences exist between different human groups, for instance different groups get different illneses, south Asians get diabetes, Africans get sickle cell. You need to tell me what Eugenics mean specific to Professor Coleman.
Also, i think you're doing a disservice to his expertise in demographics at one of the best seats of learning in the world. It's highly unlikely he's making up any old bollocks come on, How can you deny our demographic replacement it's clear Britain is experiencing massive demographic change. I haven't seen anyone even try to deny that...

I couldn't give a rat's arse if you think I'm doing him a disservice. Criticising Google for not giving the results you want is a new one on me, that's for sure. I maintain he has an agenda.

Put figures to this massive change. Verifiable ones. Not from right wing think tanks.

[jeepster]

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I couldn't give a rat's arse if you think I'm doing him a disservice. Criticising Google for not giving the results you want is a new one on me, that's for sure. I maintain he has an agenda.

Put figures to this massive change. Verifiable ones. Not from right wing think tanks.

This little Hitler has been brain washed by far right extemists,can he not make his own mind up.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I couldn't give a rat's arse if you think I'm doing him a disservice. Criticising Google for not giving the results you want is a new one on me, that's for sure. I maintain he has an agenda.

Put figures to this massive change. Verifiable ones. Not from right wing think tanks.

Migrationwatch hated the EU as well

Which came as a huge shock to me