Chaos in Government

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Chaos in Government

Their real agendas are all the same, and primitive in their simplicity ... MONEY, POWER, STATUS. Some things never change

Be fair, they are all also desperate to cut the taxes the Opposition parties (I.e. the ones not in Government) raised recently,

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Chaos in Government

Their real agendas are all the same, and primitive in their simplicity ... MONEY, POWER, STATUS. Some things never change

And this of course refers to all parties nit just the tories.

Don't you agree?

[Elwood Blues]

Re: Chaos in Government

The Tory leadership candidates want credit for telling Boris Johnson to go. But here's what they recently said about him. pic.twitter.com/waYWUYagEm

— Led By Donkeys (@ByDonkeys) July 11, 2022

You do love your twitter Bob

[Dorcus]

Re: Chaos in Government

And this of course refers to all parties nit just the tories.

Don't you agree?

Absolutely not!!!

[Dorcus]

Re: Chaos in Government

Be fair, they are all also desperate to cut the taxes the Opposition parties (I.e. the ones not in Government) raised recently,

And yet, despairingly, there will still be a sizeable tranche of people taken in by these charlatans. I'm just hoping it's not a majority next time.

[Elwood Blues]

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Absolutely not!!!

So you reckon all Labour,Lib Dems et al are all noble beings who do not do the job for money power and status????

[Dorcus]

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So you reckon all Labour,Lib Dems et al are all noble beings who do not do the job for money power and status????

Definitely the vast majority of Labour and probably more of the Lib Dems than the Tory shite. Naturally I wouldn't expect you to concur. It's an old Tory trick to try to tar everyone with the same brush when they are caught with their pants down. That disingenuous line of attack will do no good for any of us; all it will do is continue to undermine confidence in democratic politics.

[life on mars]

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So you reckon all Labour,Lib Dems et al are all noble beings who do not do the job for money power and status????

Power corrupts , we have seen that from all sides of the politcial void .. We get to hear the Tories noise as they are in power and under much more scrutiny ..

Folks post anti Tory stuff but not so the Labour issues ..

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/04/labour-women-urge-party-not-to-use-ndas-for-sexual-harassment-allegations

A dozen senior Labour women have called on the party to end its use of confidentiality agreements to “cover up” allegations of sexual harassment, saying the treatment of two former staffers was appalling.

Laura Murray, Labour’s ex-head of complaints, and Georgie Robertson, who worked in the party’s press office, said they refused to sign the agreements after reporting an official for “inappropriate” and “possessive” behaviour.

Their lawyer argued the use of the contract violated Labour’s own policy on non-disclosure agreements (NDAs).

After the BBC revealed Murray and Robertson’s allegations, Labour was urged to apologise to them and stop offering confidentiality agreements to those who made accusations of sexual harassment.

A lot of problems exists as well at the local council end of the politcial world including Labour , we only here about the Tories as there in power and under the spot light

[JamesWales]

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Definitely the vast majority of Labour and probably more of the Lib Dems than the Tory shite. Naturally I wouldn't expect you to concur. It's an old Tory trick to try to tar everyone with the same brush when they are caught with their pants down. That disingenuous line of attack will do no good for any of us; all it will do is continue to undermine confidence in democratic politics.

The only way I can conclude you have this view is that you are ignorant, probably because you only follow the media you agree with, so your views are never challenged.

It's natural the focus is on the party of government, and it's true, the Tories are on a bad run of indescretions, but they absolutely apply to all parties, you just aren't paying attention.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Chaos in Government

Power corrupts , we have seen that from all sides of the politcial void .. We get to hear the Tories noise as they are in power and under much more scrutiny ..

Folks post anti Tory stuff but not so the Labour issues ..

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/04/labour-women-urge-party-not-to-use-ndas-for-sexual-harassment-allegations

A dozen senior Labour women have called on the party to end its use of confidentiality agreements to “cover up” allegations of sexual harassment, saying the treatment of two former staffers was appalling.

Laura Murray, Labour’s ex-head of complaints, and Georgie Robertson, who worked in the party’s press office, said they refused to sign the agreements after reporting an official for “inappropriate” and “possessive” behaviour.

Their lawyer argued the use of the contract violated Labour’s own policy on non-disclosure agreements (NDAs).

After the BBC revealed Murray and Robertson’s allegations, Labour was urged to apologise to them and stop offering confidentiality agreements to those who made accusations of sexual harassment.

A lot of problems exists as well at the local council end of the politcial world including Labour , we only here about the Tories as there in power and under the spot light

Just like they did in the nineties, the Tories have become bloated and corrupt after a long period in power (although I don’t remember the nineties lot being as bad as these). All political parties have corrupt people in their ranks, but don’t try and make out they’re all as bad as each other.

A couple of months ago, the Daily Mail ran front page stories for thirteen consecutive days I believe it was about the Labour Party leader concerning an alleged breaking of lock down rules that the police had looked into months earlier and decided to take no action on. Now, after another investigation, the police have confirmed there is no case to answer.

A fortnight or so ago, a story broke about how the lover, now wife, of the then Foreign Secretary, now Prime Minister was caught giving him a blow job by an MP who worked for him at the Foreign Office. Now, I don’t know if that is true or not and I’m sure Johnson wasn’t the first prominent politician to be caught in such a position down the years, but what I want to point out is that this alleged aincident has been all but forgotten now.

I’d say there are three reasons for that, first it was all but ignored by the Tory press, second, it has beenovertaken by events to a large degree and, third, it was just the latest in a long line of scandals, embarrassments, law breaking and sheer ineptitude that has been occurring on what seems almost a weekly basis ever a period of more than two years.

Just imagine if that blow job story had been about a Labour politician, how do believe the Daily Mail would have reacted given how they made a mountain out of a mole hill over Beergate?

There has not been a Government and/or Prime Minister as shoddy and inept as this one in my lifetime and it’s an insult to previous ones, both Conservative and Labour, to make out that this lot represent business as usual.

[Dorcus]

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The only way I can conclude you have this view is that you are ignorant, probably because you only follow the media you agree with, so your views are never challenged.

It's natural the focus is on the party of government, and it's true, the Tories are on a bad run of indescretions, but they absolutely apply to all parties, you just aren't paying attention.

Shut the f up you boring t**t

[Elwood Blues]

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Definitely the vast majority of Labour and probably more of the Lib Dems than the Tory shite. Naturally I wouldn't expect you to concur. It's an old Tory trick to try to tar everyone with the same brush when they are caught with their pants down. That disingenuous line of attack will do no good for any of us; all it will do is continue to undermine confidence in democratic politics.

As the expenses scandal shows all parties are in the 'Whats's in it for me' party when push comes to shove.

I am not 'tarring everyone with the same brush' as you call it, there are many decent politicians on all sides, just as there .
many charlatans on all sides. How on earth does it undermine confidence in democratic politics to says so?

[JamesWales]

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Shut the f up you boring t**t

I'm anything but boring Dorcus.

[Dorcus]

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I'm anything but boring Dorcus.

Smug and boring, a most repulsive combination.

[JamesWales]

Re: Chaos in Government

Smug and boring, a most repulsive combination.

Go see a doctor and try spending your days doing something more productive than spreading hatred on the internet