Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[cyril evans awaydays]

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I don't wear a mask due to asthma and have had a few comments directed at me for not doing so.

Asthma you say?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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OK, it's a fair cop guvnor! Perhaps I should have said I feel "different", in the same way when I wear speedos on the beach and my grandchildren are cringing with embarrassment!

Just teasing, old fruit 😊

[lisvaneblue]

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The talk was we should wait for the excess deaths figure from other countries before drawing conclusions. Now, we have nearly three months of excess deaths data to consider and the figures show exactly the same as what they were showing when we were being told to hang on before coming to conclusions. All of the available evidence points the same way, so why should anyone think that there is still something out there which will lead to a complete reevaluation of how the UK handled the the first wave of the pandemic?

Looking at those tables, the three other UK nations have clearly done better than England, but none of them are that good really, they just mean Arlene Foster, Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford and their administrations have not been the complete disaster that Johnson and his cronies have.

Arlene Foster, Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford can't be congratulated because they have done better than Boris Johnson.

The figures relate to the 11 week peak around late March to early May when all home nations were under virtually the same restrictions. So there must be more to it than the blaming mis-administration, ( and the report does not look at what happened in each country, only the results.)

Was it related to flights into UK which were unrestricted, and a lot more flights in England than other home countries. Was it to do with public transport in areas like London. Was it to do with the larger number of nursing homes in England than elsewhere.

Lots of questions but too early to categorically say why UK outcomes so bad.

[lisvaneblue]

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That's an incredible graph.

I haven't read the paper in detail, but is this group of ophthalmologists implying that if we had introduced mask wearing early on we would have had a much lower mortality?

[Heisenberg]

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Asthma you say?

Looking at posts 2-3 months old to try to score points is a tad stalkerish and if I might say so, sad.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Looking at posts 2-3 months old to try to score points is a tad stalkerish and if I might say so, sad.

It_is_what_it_is!

[Heisenberg]

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It_is_what_it_is!

I'm surprised that you haven't been told to "F.O.A.D" yet.

[Rjk]

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https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1277960119611871234?s=19

[CCFCC3PO]

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That's an incredible graph.

It also lacks a lot of detail. What is a masked country? What is an non-masked country?

[CCFCC3PO]

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https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/sta...611871234?s=19

It's good that the Government are now acting on Pillar 2 data. Would be good to see the data sets for other cities.

[ToTaL ITK]

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Hows the shortage of PPE going for the hospitals etc ?

I see every prem and champ player is rigged out with the latest in Adidas mask protection...money talks

[the other bob wilson]

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Arlene Foster, Nicola Sturgeon and Mark Drakeford can't be congratulated because they have done better than Boris Johnson.

The figures relate to the 11 week peak around late March to early May when all home nations were under virtually the same restrictions. So there must be more to it than the blaming mis-administration, ( and the report does not look at what happened in each country, only the results.)

Was it related to flights into UK which were unrestricted, and a lot more flights in England than other home countries. Was it to do with public transport in areas like London. Was it to do with the larger number of nursing homes in England than elsewhere.

Lots of questions but too early to categorically say why UK outcomes so bad.

I don't think saying the other three did better than England is congratulating them, especially when I say that "none of them are that good really".

How about going into lockdown later than other European countries and moving people from hospitals into care homes as reasons for our poor outcome?

[Rjk]

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It also lacks a lot of detail. What is a masked country? What is an non-masked country?

that is described in the report

[Rjk]

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https://www.newscientist.com/article/2247462-scotland-could-eliminate-the-coronavirus-if-it-werent-for-england/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1593534691

this is going to be interesting. if she's got any sense Nicola sturgeon should be all over this.

[cyril evans awaydays]

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https://www.newscientist.com/article...box=1593534691


this is going to be interesting. if she's got any sense Nicola sturgeon should be all over this.

According to Boris Johnson at today's PMQs there is no border between England and Scotland