Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[lisvaneblue]

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ONS estimating that one in sixty had Covid in Wales last week - surely those figures suggest the new variant is prevalent in this country already?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55437183

Just be reading about the latest ONS data which states that the new variant is not dominant in Wales representing about 10% of cases. Drakeford makes out the the new variant is the problem in Wales, but looks like it's not

[Vindec]

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And just imagine what it would have been like if the WAG had been as lax as Johnson has been throughout the year.

That's an extraordinary comment given the Welsh Government's early cessation of the firebreak and the appalling COVID figures in Wales which are the worst in the UK. Although your post refers to "throughout the year" the only statistics that matter are the number of COVID cases and the number of deaths and in this respect the figures in Wales contradict your opinion which implies Wales have handled the pandemic in a less lax way than England. While Wales had their firebreak at the right time it ended far too early and in a far to lax manner allowing a virtual free for all.

Let's see how the WAG deal with the vaccination programme. I can't say whether England has been more lax than Wales but if the post below from Lisvane Blue is correct things don't seem to be going too well at the moment despite the availability of the vaccine.

[Vindec]

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That's an extraordinary comment given the Welsh Government's early cessation of the firebreak and the appalling COVID figures in Wales which are the worst in the UK. Although your post refers to "throughout the year" the only statistics that matter are the number of COVID cases and the number of deaths and in this respect the figures in Wales contradict your opinion which implies Wales have handled the pandemic in a less lax way than England. While Wales had their firebreak at the right time it ended far too early and in a far to lax manner allowing a virtual free for all.

Let's see how the WAG deal with the vaccination programme. I can't say whether England has been more lax than Wales but if the post below from Lisvane Blue is correct things don't seem to be going too well at the moment despite the availability of the vaccine.

Apologies. I was too late to edit the above post. The second sentence should read "Although your post refers to "throughout the year" the only statistics that matter are the number of COVID cases and the number of deaths and in this respect the figures in Wales contradict your opinion which implies England have handled the pandemic in a less lax way than Wales".

[goats]

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That's an extraordinary comment given the Welsh Government's early cessation of the firebreak and the appalling COVID figures in Wales which are the worst in the UK. Although your post refers to "throughout the year" the only statistics that matter are the number of COVID cases and the number of deaths and in this respect the figures in Wales contradict your opinion which implies Wales have handled the pandemic in a less lax way than England. While Wales had their firebreak at the right time it ended far too early and in a far to lax manner allowing a virtual free for all.

Let's see how the WAG deal with the vaccination programme. I can't say whether England has been more lax than Wales but if the post below from Lisvane Blue is correct things don't seem to be going too well at the moment despite the availability of the vaccine.

So far vaccinated less than anywhere else in the uk, not sure if anyone who isn’t front line or in a care home has been done yet.....

[goats]

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So far vaccinated less than anywhere else in the uk, not sure if anyone who isn’t front line or in a care home has been done yet.....

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/pfizer-vaccine-vaccination-coronavirus-covid-19526106

[Hilts]

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Someone has to have the lowest rate but not substantially lower.

Gethin and Drakeford need to explain themselves.

[goats]

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Someone has to have the lowest rate but not substantially lower.

Gethin and Drakeford need to explain themselves.

Create a panic to control the people? The new variant might not really be here so much, seemed a bit odd anyway, but the virus was definitely on the up a week or two ago....

[lisvaneblue]

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Someone has to have the lowest rate but not substantially lower.

Gethin and Drakeford need to explain themselves.

I agree. Why is it so difficult to transport the Pfizer jab to care homes? The majority of care homes are likely to be near the major populations, the large towns and cities. I understand that Wales distributed the vaccine equally between the Health Authorities, so the rural areas got the same amount as the areas with dense populations. Powys having the same amount as Cardiff and Vale when there isn't even a general hospital in Powys seems ill thought out.

No doubt at least one of duo will be on TV this week telling us again that the new variant is the cause of our high infection rates,( not true), that it is virulent (not true) and that the most important thing is to stay at home to save lives ( while we think about how to protect the vulnerable with the vaccine)

[Hilts]

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I agree. Why is it so difficult to transport the Pfizer jab to care homes? The majority of care homes are likely to be near the major populations, the large towns and cities. I understand that Wales distributed the vaccine equally between the Health Authorities, so the rural areas got the same amount as the areas with dense populations. Powys having the same amount as Cardiff and Vale when there isn't even a general hospital in Powys seems ill thought out.

No doubt at least one of duo will be on TV this week telling us again that the new variant is the cause of our high infection rates,( not true), that it is virulent (not true) and that the most important thing is to stay at home to save lives ( while we think about how to protect the vulnerable with the vaccine)

If and its a big if it really is a big issue getting this vaccine into Care Homes with the Oxford vaccine being on the horizon then why not vaccinate as many other people in vulnerable groups. Say the over 80s those with underlying health issues. Even expand to over 75s.

Then go back to plan A and go to the Care Homes when the Oxford comes out.

We should be vaccinating as quickly as possible.

So far im only aware of 1 person I know who has had a jab. A mate of mine who is a Social Worker.( he has been helping in care homes due to staff shortages)

[Tuerto]

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I agree. Why is it so difficult to transport the Pfizer jab to care homes? The majority of care homes are likely to be near the major populations, the large towns and cities. I understand that Wales distributed the vaccine equally between the Health Authorities, so the rural areas got the same amount as the areas with dense populations. Powys having the same amount as Cardiff and Vale when there isn't even a general hospital in Powys seems ill thought out.

No doubt at least one of duo will be on TV this week telling us again that the new variant is the cause of our high infection rates,( not true), that it is virulent (not true) and that the most important thing is to stay at home to save lives ( while we think about how to protect the vulnerable with the vaccine)

Have you got any evidence to say that the vaccine is being distributed in rural areas at the same quantity to those areas with more dense populations? That doesn't make much sense to me, i'd like to see the breakdown if you've got it, thanks.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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That's an extraordinary comment given the Welsh Government's early cessation of the firebreak and the appalling COVID figures in Wales which are the worst in the UK. Although your post refers to "throughout the year" the only statistics that matter are the number of COVID cases and the number of deaths and in this respect the figures in Wales contradict your opinion which implies Wales have handled the pandemic in a less lax way than England. While Wales had their firebreak at the right time it ended far too early and in a far to lax manner allowing a virtual free for all.

Let's see how the WAG deal with the vaccination programme. I can't say whether England has been more lax than Wales but if the post below from Lisvane Blue is correct things don't seem to be going too well at the moment despite the availability of the vaccine.

I suppose it'll all be in the timings. I've no doubt that Englands numbers will look horrific in a week or two.

Wales did well just after the firebreak but probably all can agree we should have stayed in it for considerably longer, but there's a balance to strike.

[Hilts]

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Have you got any evidence to say that the vaccine is being distributed in rural areas at the same quantity to those areas with more dense populations? That doesn't make much sense to me, i'd like to see the breakdown if you've got it, thanks.

Looks like it depends on the number of priority cases in each area. Swansea had more than the whole of N Wales.

http://www.deeside.com/north-wales-sees-12-of-first-vaccinations-in-wales/

[Hilts]

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Sorry link.

http://www.deeside.com/north-wales-sees-12-of-first-vaccinations-in-wales/

[Tuerto]

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Sorry link.

http://www.deeside.com/north-wales-s...ions-in-wales/

Cheers Hilts. So not like LB was trying to make out, unless he know's different.

[the other bob wilson]

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Apologies. I was too late to edit the above post. The second sentence should read "Although your post refers to "throughout the year" the only statistics that matter are the number of COVID cases and the number of deaths and in this respect the figures in Wales contradict your opinion which implies England have handled the pandemic in a less lax way than Wales".

I took care to say throughout the year whereas you appear to be concentrating solely on the period since the firebreak which I concede the WAG have not handled well and it seems they are not making a great job of rolling out the vaccine. However, there has been a bit of a trend towards saying that Johnson and co are somehow responsible for England only and this is not true, they are the UK Government, therefore, despite the powers the WAG has with regard to healthcare in Wales, it's hardly as if they have full independence where Covid policy is concerned.