Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Croesy Blue]

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The UK government didn't really take any action until March 12th/13th and from then on increasingly ramped up firstly weekly and then day-by-day to where we are now. The rough suggestion being that starting one week earlier could have massively improved our circumstances.

I'm still a bit shocked we waited until we did. My office had shut down a week earlier and had prepared us for home working a week before that. If they could see it why couldn't the government?

[Monster munch]

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I think people are becoming complacent aswell. Be it boredom or stubbornness but I get the impression not everyone is on board yet.
We’re still on exactly the same trajectory as Italy 14/15 days behind, all be it Lombardy has taken the brunt of it but look at London.
It’s going to get stricter in the next week or so.

[Croesy Blue]

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I think people are becoming complacent aswell. Be it boredom or stubbornness but I get the impression not everyone is on board yet.
We’re still on exactly the same trajectory as Italy 14/15 days behind, all be it Lombardy has taken the brunt of it but look at London.
It’s going to get stricter in the next week or so.

I was thinking the roads and streets near me seemed a bit busier today.

Sunday is supposed to be hot, that’ll be a test.

[Allez Allez Allez]

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I'm still a bit shocked we waited until we did. My office had shut down a week earlier and had prepared us for home working a week before that. If they could see it why couldn't the government?

Your workplace (with it's supposed contacts in areas that happen to be hotspots for the virus) is hardly unique.

Practically everyone who could work from home was working from home by the Monday before schools closed.

It was very obvious that the schools would close Friday with most parents at home working. So, the UK avoided the Italy and Spain examples of kids being sent to stay with grand parents for a week or 2 before parents were kept at home.

Can you imagine if we'd closed down a week earlier? We'd still be seeing the same figures (because of incubation) and people would now be getting really fed up. We're already seeing it happen now, and we've only been in lockdown 10 days.

[Elwood Blues]

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They were fitting the science to the policy. At that time the policy was that sporting events carried on and so the scientists were wheeled out to explain why that was fine.

So the scientist are just puppets dancing on a string are they.

Hoe do you know that the policy was not being fitted to the science????

[Croesy Blue]

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Your workplace (with it's supposed contacts in areas that happen to be hotspots for the virus) is hardly unique. Ok yeah

Practically everyone who could work from home was working from home by the Monday before schools closed. Ok yeah

It was very obvious that the schools would close Friday with most parents at home working. So, the UK avoided the Italy and Spain examples of kids being sent to stay with grand parents for a week or 2 before parents were kept at home. ok yeah

Can you imagine if we'd closed down a week earlier? We'd still be seeing the same figures (because of incubation) and people would now be getting really fed up. We're already seeing it happen now, and we've only been in lockdown 10 days. why would we be getting the same figures a week earlier because of incubation if we’d done everything else a week earlier?

Jirga old pal why are you being weirdly aggressive?

[rudy gestede]

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Can you imagine if we'd closed down a week earlier? We'd still be seeing the same figures (because of incubation) and people would now be getting really fed up.

There’s been some off the wall shite posted in here for the last month. But how the **** did this make sense in your head?

[Elwood Blues]

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Provide examples.

I was responding to AZ citys post.

He gave no examples where he talked about experts who do give a scooby.( to quote him)

You didn't ask him.

[Eric Cartman]

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So the scientist are just puppets dancing on a string are they.

Hoe do you know that the policy was not being fitted to the science????

Not puppets dancing but they certainly haven't had all powers of decision making devolved to them, this was always a balancing act between the economic effect (shorter term and longer term) and lives lost given our level of preparedness. The cso or cmo doesn't make those decisions, they are employed by the people who do.

That is my way of explaining why we were out of step with the who and the majority of the world for so long. The only other explanation is that we aren't as good at this stuff as we think.

[surge]

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The Government script:

‘We’ve taken the right steps at the right time’
-Dominic Raab March 30

‘We’ve taken the right steps at the right time’
-Matt Hancock April 2

Paul Johnson: https://twitter.com/paul__johnson/st...50443411726336

The right steps at the right time but still leaving us with a lack of testing equipment, a lack of ventilators, lack of PPE but a full Cheltenham Festival and Wales/Scotland 6 Nations only called off on 13th of March and not following UK government advice. These things all take time to obtain but we had warning with first UK case at end of January.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Practically everyone who could work from home was working from home by the Monday before schools closed.

This is absolute nonsense.

[chrisp_1927]

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There’s been some off the wall shite posted in here for the last month. But how the **** did this make sense in your head?

To be fair to him, the bit about incubation is factually correct.

[Croesy Blue]

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To be fair to him, the bit about incubation is factually correct.

So you think if we isolated a week earlier we would stil have exactly the same number of overall infections?

[Wales-Bales]

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Personally, I would say the best advice is to spend less time watching TV news which is sensational and not very good. Personally, I view this Covid outbreak as akin to a bad winter influenza epidemic. In this case we have had 8000 deaths this last year in the at risk groups viz over 65% people with heart disease etc. I do not feel this current Covid will exceed this number. We are suffering from a media epidemic!

[Croesy Blue]

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Personally, I would say the best advice is to spend less time watching TV news which is sensational and not very good. Personally, I view this Covid outbreak as akin to a bad winter influenza epidemic. In this case we have had 8000 deaths this last year in the at risk groups viz over 65% people with heart disease etc. I do not feel this current Covid will exceed this number. We are suffering from a media epidemic!

It only won't exceed this number because we've all been isolating for 3 weeks already. If we were going about life as normal the deaths would be over 10 times that. That's not sensational, that's a fact.

There's also the pesky detail that we have a flu vaccine and the fact that hospitals don't get overwhelmed by people with flu during flu season.