Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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There were a lot of stories about a month ago about people who had recovered from Covid 19 (maybe some who had the virus but showed few or no symptoms) who had significant long term damage to organs - heart and lungs if I remember rightly. Those stories seem to have dried up - maybe the numbers involved were not that big, I don't know - but I don't think we should only be looking at numbers of deaths to assess the impact.

There was a feature on Radio 4 this morning about people who still have problems months after having Covid - and the two people I know who have had it, also months ago, are still not back to full health.

[life on mars]

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sorry another copy and past :

‘Don’t Kill Granny’ becomes British city’s new social distancing slogan

Go Preston go

[CCFCC3PO]

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https://theconversation.com/does-coronavirus-linger-in-the-body-what-we-know-about-how-viruses-in-general-hang-on-in-the-brain-and-testicles-142878?fbclid=IwAR2QXAVvK-Uy7aaVh8V3bW8KhTRwMU5DHrQJLzBIATxY8j9tDcqh9ODQBfg

[the other bob wilson]

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Hardly what you'd expect from a "world beating" test and trace system is it?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/10/nhs-test-and-trace-to-cut-6000-jobs-to-strengthen-regional-teams

At least this Government that wants to centralise like no other in recent memory has finally bowed to what it has been told by people who know about the subject better than they do for months - there was a locally based system already in place which should have been utilised far more than it has been. The last thing Johnson and co want is a return to the national lockdown seen in the spring, hence the emphasis on dealing with "hotspots" on a local level and yet they still wanted to run the whole thing from London while, essentially, ignoring local advice.

[CCFCC3PO]

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Hardly what you'd expect from a "world beating" test and trace system is it?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/10/nhs-test-and-trace-to-cut-6000-jobs-to-strengthen-regional-teams

At least this Government that wants to centralise like no other in recent memory has finally bowed to what it has been told by people who know about the subject better than they do for months - there was a locally based system already in place which should have been utilised far more than it has been. The last thing Johnson and co want is a return to the national lockdown seen in the spring, hence the emphasis on dealing with "hotspots" on a local level and yet they still wanted to run the whole thing from London while, essentially, ignoring local advice.

Some will say that it is "common sense at last", but this is clearly an admission of failure. I think there is genuine concern from Johnson (self-concern, but concern nonetheless) that schools will be unable to fully reopen in England in September.

I suspect that, in light of the bad news, the number of anti-immigration posts will increase on Social Media to divert people's attentions away from the failings of the Government.

[Hilts]

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4 new cases in NZ.

[Bluebina]

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Putin has registered a vaccine and tested it on his daughter, she's still alive so they are going ahead by the looks of things.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8615179/Russia-registers-virus-vaccine-Putins-daughter-given-it.html

[CCFCC3PO]

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Putin has registered a vaccine and tested it on his daughter, she's still alive so they are going ahead by the looks of things.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-given-it.html

The glory of the anti-vaxxers if (when) this vaccine turns out to be crap will be unbearable.

[the other bob wilson]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/11/rise-in-uk-covid-cases-above-1000-a-day-breached-government-target

[CCFCC3PO]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ernment-target

Compare that to the reaction of the NZ Government following 4 new cases.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-breaks-out-again-in-new-zealand-after-102-days-12047011

[the other bob wilson]

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This Government really is a joke

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/11/health-minister-covid-study-cited-by-gavin-williamson-is-work-in-progress

[CCFCC3PO]

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This Government really is a joke

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rk-in-progress

I was fully supportive of the Government at the time that the lockdowns were announced. I still think the lockdowns were effective, but during that time we learnt about the tragic handling of care homes. We were then presented with the Chief Advisor breaking his own rules, and despite my loathing of Cummings, it was TV that was only watchable behind a pillow, it was that bad.

In an effort to bury bad news with good, England opened up at a super fast rate, and because there were no "spikes" within a day or two of 500,000 people going to the South Coast, or pubs re-opening, the cautious approach of Drakeford was seen as "him just trying to be different" to the forelock tuggers. With 4 million people placed into lockdown, some before the previous lockdown had actually ended, the scientific advisors warned that "we were at the edge of what we can do" - the implication being that there may well be a choice between opening pubs, or opening classrooms.

As over-zealous as ever to tell us how wonderful they are, they divulged the results of a study that, just a day later, has been called "a work in progress". Johnson warns of some "bumpy months ahead" today, with 220,000 people losing their jobs during furlough, and three times as many likely to lose their jobs immediately post furlough ending.

While the figures are, currently, low the writing does seem to be on the wall that if any Government is walking into a new national lockdown, then it is this one. They'll be singing hurrah and giving it the old "It'll all be over by Christmas" British bravado along the way, and proclaiming British Common Sense as the biggest weapon in the entire world. Johnson is so stupid, I've got even money on him being the first World Leader to get the virus twice.

[the other bob wilson]

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I was fully supportive of the Government at the time that the lockdowns were announced. I still think the lockdowns were effective, but during that time we learnt about the tragic handling of care homes. We were then presented with the Chief Advisor breaking his own rules, and despite my loathing of Cummings, it was TV that was only watchable behind a pillow, it was that bad.

In an effort to bury bad news with good, England opened up at a super fast rate, and because there were no "spikes" within a day or two of 500,000 people going to the South Coast, or pubs re-opening, the cautious approach of Drakeford was seen as "him just trying to be different" to the forelock tuggers. With 4 million people placed into lockdown, some before the previous lockdown had actually ended, the scientific advisors warned that "we were at the edge of what we can do" - the implication being that there may well be a choice between opening pubs, or opening classrooms.

As over-zealous as ever to tell us how wonderful they are, they divulged the results of a study that, just a day later, has been called "a work in progress". Johnson warns of some "bumpy months ahead" today, with 220,000 people losing their jobs during furlough, and three times as many likely to lose their jobs immediately post furlough ending.

While the figures are, currently, low the writing does seem to be on the wall that if any Government is walking into a new national lockdown, then it is this one. They'll be singing hurrah and giving it the old "It'll all be over by Christmas" British bravado along the way, and proclaiming British Common Sense as the biggest weapon in the entire world. Johnson is so stupid, I've got even money on him being the first World Leader to get the virus twice.

I can remember being incredulous back in June when someone in authority said it would be September before track and trace in the UK would be working properly - that looks an over optimistic forecast now. I know it's not really true, but, having been tardy int he extreme when it came to preparation for the virus back in the early months of the year, it sometimes feels like the Government have been doing nothing since lockdown was relaxed except for trying to "save the summer" when it comes to what we may face in the coming weeks and months.

[CCFCC3PO]

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I can remember being incredulous back in June when someone in authority said it would be September before track and trace in the UK would be working properly - that looks an over optimistic forecast now. I know it's not really true, but, having been tardy int he extreme when it came to preparation for the virus back in the early months of the year, it sometimes feels like the Government have been doing nothing since lockdown was relaxed except for trying to "save the summer" when it comes to what we may face in the coming weeks and months.

Amazingly, the Government planned on putting people first before business. Now, it is the other way around. And, the Government doesn't appear to have saved anything.

[CCFCC3PO]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ernment-target

Missed the target again today. Maybe it will be easier to say when they do hit the target.

French PM says covid war going wrong way with 1,397 cases. Johnson says nothing with 1,148 cases.