Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[goats]

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Why do you say that? It's early days, but it seems that covid is more deadly than flu, and is more contagious than normal flu (about equal to pandemic flu).

In what ways would it be much worse?

Heard lots of doctors say this, that’s why I’d say that.

[Rjk]

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Heard lots of doctors say this, that’s why I’d say that.

I've not heard any doctors saying that.

[goats]

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I've not heard any doctors saying that.

I have, I live next door to about 8 and know a few.....we try to manage flu now with a jab and it can still kill 30,000 a year which we don’t even hear about.

Covid: Is it time we learnt to live with the virus? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649

[lardy]

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I have, I live next door to about 8 and know a few.....we try to manage flu now with a jab and it can still kill 30,000 a year which we don’t even hear about.

Covid: Is it time we learnt to live with the virus? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649

So in a bad year, the flu can kill less in a year than coronavirus has in six months. Not that I'm questioning the 8 doctors next door of course.

[lisvaneblue]

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I have, I live next door to about 8 and know a few.....we try to manage flu now with a jab and it can still kill 30,000 a year which we don’t even hear about.

Covid: Is it time we learnt to live with the virus? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649

We know about managing flu. Thing about Covid is the we have no natural immunity to it, no memory of it in our immune system.

Additionally people can spread it before they have symptoms, and some don't develop symptoms.

There is no preventive medicine, unlike flu where a vaccine is proven to prevent in most people. Imagine how bad flu would be without a vaccine.

So the only preventive action we can take is hygiene, keeping away from others, keeping rooms well ventilated, using masks and using tissues when coughing or sneezing.

Simple stuff but lots of people don't want to stick by the rules.

[the other bob wilson]

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We know about managing flu. Thing about Covid is the we have no natural immunity to it, no memory of it in our immune system.

Additionally people can spread it before they have symptoms, and some don't develop symptoms.

There is no preventive medicine, unlike flu where a vaccine is proven to prevent in most people. Imagine how bad flu would be without a vaccine.

So the only preventive action we can take is hygiene, keeping away from others, keeping rooms well ventilated, using masks and using tissues when coughing or sneezing.

Simple stuff but lots of people don't want to stick by the rules.

Agree with all that and would add that, although there are plenty around who would swear otherwise, this is a virus that, officially, has only been affecting humans for ten months - we must, surely, need to have had it around for at least a couple of years before we can be as confident about it as some on here are.

[Monster munch]

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Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance are giving a briefing today at 11.00am. Drakeford then at lunchtime and Boris tomorrow. I'm fully expecting to hear future plans over the next few weeks for new lockdown measures if people don't start listening, perhaps even national ones if the numbers keep going up.
A kind of shot across the bow warning from them. Hope it dosn't come to that but people still not listening i don't see what other choice they have? The government are obviously very worried again.

[Dorcus]

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Being pedantic C-DIFF is infectious

Supporting C-DIFF City is

[Dorcus]

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I have, I live next door to about 8 and know a few.....we try to manage flu now with a jab and it can still kill 30,000 a year which we don’t even hear about.

Covid: Is it time we learnt to live with the virus? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649

Gosh, if you live next door to 8 are you concerned about the overcrowding?

[Jordi Culé]

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/21/uk-could-have-50000-covid-cases-a-day-by-mid-october-says-chief-medical-officer-chris-whitty

The outlook is looking very positive.

[Vindec]

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Today's briefing by Whitty and Valance made grim viewing with up to 50000 cases a day within the next few weeks if action isn't taken. For a start it would help if people obeyed the existing rules. What was said today made so much better sense and was in my view far more authentic coming from the experts rather than politicians. I'm not sure why Drakeford and Sturgeon have to do their press conferences later today; surely that would be better done by the medical and scientific staff who advise the politicians in Wales and Scotland and presumably interpret the data and policies coming from the experts in Whitehall. Boris is doing a press conference tomorrow presumably to announce the further actions to be taken.

Those who try and minimise the effects of COVID are sadly misguided in my view. I have a son working on the front line and he tells me the illness is a horrible way to die. It is so infectious many NHS workers on the front line are even isolating themselves from their children living separately from their families. So who should the public listen to? The COVID deniers and minimisers on random message boards and social media or the medical experts who have spent a lifetime building their reputations as they progress in their professions? I know who I believe.

[goats]

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Agree with all that and would add that, although there are plenty around who would swear otherwise, this is a virus that, officially, has only been affecting humans for ten months - we must, surely, need to have had it around for at least a couple of years before we can be as confident about it as some on here are.

Flu has been around forever, we have a vaccine of sorts and yet it still wipes out up to 30,000 some winters. If we can take anything from all this it’s be far more hygienic, social distancing might also become normal for a few years

[goats]

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Gosh, if you live next door to 8 are you concerned about the overcrowding?

Only when we all get in the hot tub

[Welshcake.]

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Flu has been around forever, we have a vaccine of sorts and yet it still wipes out up to 30,000 some winters. If we can take anything from all this it’s be far more hygienic, social distancing might also become normal for a few years

In the Southern hemisphere flu is down to 5-10% levels of last year. Even basic social distancing rules have halted it's transmission during winter.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/17/falling-flu-rates-in-southern-hemisphere-offers-hope-as-winter-approaches-coronavirus

[Vindec]

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Welsh Press Conference by Vaughan Gethin on now. So the previous post saying it would be done by Drakeford is presumably incorrect unless he is coming on later.