The New Iron Lady

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So you are saying there's a fairly even split. I don't think that's the case.

That's ok, its alright to have differing views on any given subject.

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Turns out this lady is for turning
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Turns out this lady is for turning
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ain't that the truth. No substance, all rhetoric. just populist politics.

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ain't that the truth. No substance, all rhetoric. just populist politics.

Absolutely. What a shambles!!

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Today's Kwasi bingo card-
Growth Plan
Simply a distraction
Strong Package
Intervention
Energy Package

What an absolute shambles of chancellor.

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Just for balance, didn't Gordon Brown/Labour reverse a planned tax/NIC rise?

I don't recall that being a shambles, just an ill thought out policy that was quickly reversed.

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She wasnt getting it through Parliament.

Shes finished already.

The country needs an election.

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Just for balance, didn't Gordon Brown/Labour reverse a planned tax/NIC rise?

I don't recall that being a shambles, just an ill thought out policy that was quickly reversed.

I'm not sure if Brown reversed a tax rise less than 24 hours after the PM said it was staying, but he certainly raised taxes for many.

It's a shambles because yesterday Truss said that it was a great policy that she would not abandon, and it was solely Kwarteng's decision to introduce.
Gove and Shapps amongst others express their concerns, then all of a sudden after a conversation between Truss and Kwasi it's been abolished.

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Just for balance, didn't Gordon Brown/Labour reverse a planned tax/NIC rise?

I don't recall that being a shambles, just an ill thought out policy that was quickly reversed.

Quickly reversed?????????

I may be wrong, but I don't think he staunchly defended it right up to the day before. In a full tv interview.
Total and utter shambles of prime minister and government

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Bendy Liz and Kwarteng the Quasi Chancellor

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Quickly reversed?????????

I may be wrong, but I don't think he staunchly defended it right up to the day before. In a full tv interview.
Total and utter shambles of prime minister and government

I'm pretty sure Brown defended it right up to the point of reversal.

The point being, these things happen. Granted the Tories do seem to be in a considerable mess whereas Labour (IIRC) weren't, as the narrative at the time was a party and government that listened, rather than a government thats a rudderless ship

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I'm pretty sure Brown defended it right up to the point of reversal.

The point being, these things happen. Granted the Tories do seem to be in a considerable mess whereas Labour (IIRC) weren't, as the narrative at the time was a party and government that listened, rather than a government thats a rudderless ship

Do you think any sane politician could have thought that the idea was a good one, in the current climate?
Do you think crashing the markets and waiting TEN DAYS is good government?

it's absolute madness!

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Do you think any sane politician could have thought that the idea was a good one, in the current climate?
Do you think crashing the markets and waiting TEN DAYS is good government?

it's absolute madness!

If you're cutting top rates of tax you do it when the economy is buoyant, wages are rising and confidence is high.

You don't do it during a cost of living crisis.

They misjudged the room, that's for sure

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If you're cutting top rates of tax you do it when the economy is buoyant, wages are rising and confidence is high.

You don't do it during a cost of living crisis.

They misjudged the room, that's for sure

And some. But anyone could have told them that!
Hence my original description, it's a total and utter shambles!
What's a few billion wipes off the markets though. Live and learn, these things happen. The cynical would be forgiven for thinking it was deliberate

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I bet my ass that in 6 months all the goons are clapping the govt on question time

What a load of cobblers