Official Ashes Thread

[Hilts]

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Its great entertainment and Englands day. But should have been so much better and I think a couple should have made big hundreds.

Why fall for such obvious traps when runs were there for the taking anyway.

Big innings needed tomorrow from at least 2 out of Brook Bairstow and Stokes.

This could be another close one.

[TWGL1]

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Its great entertainment and Englands day. But should have been so much better and I think a couple should have made big hundreds.

Why fall for such obvious traps when runs were there for the taking anyway.

Big innings needed tomorrow from at least 2 out of Brook Bairstow and Stokes.

This could be another close one.

Pontin thinks Harry Brook will struggle against the short ball throughout his test career. I disagree , he’s just unorthodox.

[the other bob wilson]

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Playing Devil's advocate to an extent, England have batted for sixty one overs, what do you think their score would be if they batted "normally"? For a start, Crawley always seems more vulnerable to me when he is pushing and poking at the ball - I'm fairly sure he wouldn't have reached forty eight if he had tried to "build an innings". The same applies to Duckett only less so, much is made of the fact he leave so few balls (something I think is asking for trouble as an opener), but is he better off fully committing to shots as opposed to having the question "do I play this or not?" turning over in his mind in the split second before the ball reaches him? I think I'm right in saying Pope's figures are better under McCullum than they were before (Bairstow's definitely are), but I'm still not convinced about him yet, while Root should just be told to play in the way that has got him to be rated right up there among England's best batsmen.

My guess is that, if that England line up had played those sixty one overs in typical test match mode, they would have ended the day at something like 180-3 - in this instance, I'd say ninety mote runs for one more wicket lost is the better position to be in. Baz ball isn't all bad or all good, but I agree that machismo took over last night, Pope's shot was ridiculous, Duckett was a bit unlucky, Root took leave of his senses and I think you just have to accept Brook for what he is - he's seems another one who wouldn't be as effective pushing and prodding to me.

[TWGL1]

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Playing Devil's advocate to an extent, England have batted for sixty one overs, what do you think their score would be if they batted "normally"? For a start, Crawley always seems more vulnerable to me when he is pushing and poking at the ball - I'm fairly sure he wouldn't have reached forty eight if he had tried to "build an innings". The same applies to Duckett only less so, much is made of the fact he leave so few balls (something I think is asking for trouble as an opener), but is he better off fully committing to shots as opposed to having the question "do I play this or not?" turning over in his mind in the split second before the ball reaches him? I think I'm right in saying Pope's figures are better under McCullum than they were before (Bairstow's definitely are), but I'm still not convinced about him yet, while Root should just be told to play in the way that has got him to be rated right up there among England's best batsmen.

My guess is that, if that England line up had played those sixty one overs in typical test match mode, they would have ended the day at something like 180-3 - in this instance, I'd say ninety mote runs for one more wicket lost is the better position to be in. Baz ball isn't all bad or all good, but I agree that machismo took over last night, Pope's shot was ridiculous, Duckett was a bit unlucky, Root took leave of his senses and I think you just have to accept Brook for what he is - he's seems another one who wouldn't be as effective pushing and prodding to me.

Depends on this mornings session I’d say before we can judge. A good one and I’d say it was vindicated. Quick scoring means you face less balls ,and decreases a batter’s chances of being dismissed.

Lyon looks to be out for the remainder of the series according to Aggers on TMS last night.

[The Bloop]

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Depends on this mornings session I’d say before we can judge. A good one and I’d say it was vindicated. Quick scoring means you face less balls ,and decreases a batter’s chances of being dismissed.

Lyon looks to be out for the remainder of the series according to Aggers on TMS last night.

Wouldn't surprise me if they called up Mitchell Swepson to replace Lyon

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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And another one

[Harry Lime]

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Wouldn't surprise me if they called up Mitchell Swepson to replace Lyon

Todd Murphy seems to be the favourite to replace him. I don't know much about him but there is a lot of positive things being written about him.

[The Bloop]

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Todd Murphy seems to be the favourite to replace him. I don't know much about him but there is a lot of positive things being written about him.

Murphy is already in the squad and yes, more likely to play if Lyon is out. They'd probably call up a back up, which I think will be Swepson.
Glamorgan probably need to start searching again for a replacement.

[TWGL1]

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England have lost 6-47 this morning

All out 325

[Majorblue]

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England have lost 6-47 this morning

All out 325

Well I did predict a collapse although I was pretty much wrong about everything else.
Interesting to see how aggressive Australia are in backing themselves, with a declaration, to set England a target.

[the other bob wilson]

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All the positives of yesterday lost in a session

[chrisp_1927]

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Nasty looking crack on the jaw for Broad. Horribly close to the neck area.

Ona separate note. Anyone else find the BBC commentator Joe Wilson extremely annoying. Seems to be trying to be humorous, but just comes across as a complete tosser. It's a dive for the nite button when he starts narrating the highlights on the news

[The Bloop]

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Nasty looking crack on the jaw for Broad. Horribly close to the neck area.

Ona separate note. Anyone else find the BBC commentator Joe Wilson extremely annoying. Seems to be trying to be humorous, but just comes across as a complete tosser. It's a dive for the nite button when he starts narrating the highlights on the news

Yes, but he's marginally better when compared to Mike Bushell on Breakfast.

[the other bob wilson]

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Just seen some of the shots Brook played this morning and I take back my earlier comment about just accepting him for what he is. I was talking about the player who was playing brilliant classical cricket shots last winter, not the one who was hacking at the ball as if it was the last three balls of an innings in the Hundred this morning.

Mike Atherton and Eoin Morgan got it right a few minutes ago on Sky when they said until recently there was a degree of calculation behind the Baz ball approach, but now it looks like the players think all they have to do is swing the bat against a team which for this test had four bowlers with more than two hundred test wickets each and they’ll wilt just like other sides have done.

Australia must be taking lunch thinking this is easy. Bowling short all of the time was no master plan, it was a desperate move by a team which were behind the eight ball after losing their steadiest bowler through injury. Last year England wouldn’t have flung their bat at everything, but this year it’s almost as if they think they’re wimps if they don’t and so England imploded and it’s hard to see a way back into the series for them from here.

[Harry Lime]

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Murphy is already in the squad and yes, more likely to play if Lyon is out. They'd probably call up a back up, which I think will be Swepson.
Glamorgan probably need to start searching again for a replacement.

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