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A second test England could, and maybe should have won, the margin of defeat should have one or two in the England dressing room thinking that they won the game for the Aussies.
England could and possibly should have won both the tests. Playing Bazball is one thing but playing stupidly when they had Australia on the ropes in the first innings and with Lyon crocked is quite another. Very poor game management and I hope some lessons are learned although it is undeniably exciting.
Originally posted by the other bob wilsonView Post
A second test England could, and maybe should have won, the margin of defeat should have one or two in the England dressing room thinking that they won the game for the Aussies.
Thrown away wickets in the first innings proved costly.
Originally posted by Harry Paget FlashmanView Post
No Welsh through and through.
I know what the ECB is called and spent time at Lords and was amazed at all the references to Wales.
I don't get the love in for English cricket but not supporting them at football. How many on here would want England and Wales football team.
I was brought up supporting the England cricket team in the knowledge that if any Welsh players were deemed good enough, they would receive an England cap. I did not have a problem with the team's name.
The same thing obviously does not apply to the English football team. Possibly because I was brainwashed by my dad at an early age to have an intense dislike of their national team, I find it hard to move away from this mindset. But it's the media hype for the football team that sticks in the craw. Especially when players like Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard were considered world beaters and odds on favourites to win every tournament in which they participated.
It’s a similar situation to supporting the British Lions at rugby
No it's not.
Apart from 'and Wales' on the small print of the letterhead, the England cricket team is just plain England.
All the emblems, all the iconography, all the songs and anthems, all the references (England, England, England...) are English.
The British & Irish Lions have four nations clearly represented on the badge, in the kit, and in all the cultural references.
Sure a few Welsh players have played for England (as have Irish, South African, Zimbabwean and others) and Glamorgan gets some financial support from international income - but that is nothing to balance the scales.
As a Welsh person I have never felt that England represented me. I agree with Flashman on this.
Apart from 'and Wales' on the small print of the letterhead, the England cricket team is just plain England.
All the emblems, all the iconography, all the songs and anthems, all the references (England, England, England...) are English.
The British & Irish Lions have four nations clearly represented on the badge, in the kit, and in all the cultural references.
Sure a few Welsh players have played for England (as have Irish, South African, Zimbabwean and others) and Glamorgan gets some financial support from international income - but that is nothing to balance the scales.
As a Welsh person I have never felt that England represented me. I agree with Flashman on this.
Don’t agree, as not every British Lions Team has had Welsh representation (or is guaranteed) so for me it’s along similar lines ( not exact) and as cricket is very much a minority sport (excluding the BCCI) it’s not going to balance up as a comparison.
Conversely, there have been plenty of Glamorgan teams with hardly any Welsh representation.
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