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**Rjk** · 03-07-23, 12:50

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Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post

Metson’s lack of ability with the bat went against him as far as England was concerned - he was left out of the Glamorgan team for Adrian Shaw at times as well.

Think David Hemp went on a Lions/A tour as a Glamorgan player didn’t he and Dean Cosker may have as well.

I think back in those days there was much more of an obsession amongst England selectors to pick players with the proper "textbook" technique, rather than someone more unconventional but effective. Test matches were seen as the ultimate examination of a player's technique and the best way to succeed was to play the textbook way. Hence certain players got so many chances.
that seems a lot less of a consideration these days.

**Harry Paget Flashman** · 03-07-23, 12:53

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Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post

Stokes said he would have withdrawn the appeal and I have no doubt he would have given he asked the umpires to take 4 runs off England’s total in the World Cup final.

He didn't do that though and I don't believe for one second England would have acted any differently and neither should they.

**Rjk** · 03-07-23, 12:57

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post

He didn't do that though and I don't believe for one second England would have acted any differently and neither should they.

David Gower said on commentary that he would have withdrawn the appeal, and I believe him.

**Harry Paget Flashman** · 03-07-23, 13:01

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by Rjk View Post

David Gower said on commentary that he would have withdrawn the appeal, and I believe him.

Maybe he would have but there's as many controversial incidents where people have withdrawn the appeal as haven't.

People making out England are the moral bastions of cricket are deluded.

**Hot Shot Hamish.** · 03-07-23, 13:21

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post

That’s a good example because there was the same argument about whether “time” had been called or not - I think Tony Greig who had thrown down the wicket then went on to win the game with his off spinners.

https://youtu.be/qBSgfZzbpPM

This was more out in my mind as Kalicharan didn’t make any effort to return to his crease which would be the sensible thing to do but I fully agree with England withdrawing their appeal…eventually!!

**Pedro de la Rosa** · 03-07-23, 13:21

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post

He didn't do that though and I don't believe for one second England would have acted any differently and neither should they.

Ben Stokes asked them to take 4 runs off the board in the Final.

**Harry Paget Flashman** · 03-07-23, 13:26

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post

Ben Stokes asked them to take 4 runs off the board in the Final.

He confirmed on the Tuffers and Vaughan podcast that he didn't.

**Pedro de la Rosa** · 03-07-23, 13:29

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post

He confirmed on the Tuffers and Vaughan podcast that he didn't.

Ha, he told Vaughan in 2019 that he did. Although this is MPV, a world class dickhead telling this story

**Harry Paget Flashman** · 03-07-23, 13:32

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post

Ha, he told Vaughan in 2019 that he did. Although this is MPV, a world class dickhead telling this story

Never Asked Umpire To Cancel Four Overthrow Runs In Cricket World Cup Final Win: Ben Stokes | Outlook India

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/sports-news-never-asked-umpire-to-cancel-four-overthrow-runs-in-cricket-world-cup-final-win-ben-stokes/335226

England's 2019 Cricket World Cup hero Ben Stokes dismissed claims that he had umpires to cancel the four overthrow runs in his side's win over New Zealand on July 14 at Lord's.

**Pedro de la Rosa** · 03-07-23, 13:34

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post

https://www.outlookindia.com/website...-stokes/335226

One of those stories that gets told so often it gets believed, then.

**TWGL1** · 03-07-23, 15:41

Re: Official Ashes Thread

New footage has emerged of Bairstow following his dismissal

Lalo Escőbar (@razor5edge) on X

https://twitter.com/razor5edge/status/1675581742005071872?s=61&t=opXYWu2ILhmySD2aRt-GNg

Jonny Bairstow greeting the Australian team on the Long Room stairs at the end of the game #Ashes #Ashes23 #ENGvAUS https://t.co/ugaDu6FbbL

**Jordi Cul�** · 03-07-23, 16:26

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post

New footage has emerged of Bairstow following his dismissal

https://twitter.com/razor5edge/statu...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

Jimmy Krankie on roids.

**the other bob wilson** · 03-07-23, 16:29

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The Ashes 2023: Bairstow dismissal just not cricket, says Rishi Sunak

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66089658

The PM's spokesman said Australia had broken the spirit of the game with the controversial stumping.

**TWGL1** · 03-07-23, 16:37

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66089658

In all my time following cricket would I see the Long Room resemble Millwall away

**The Bloop** · 03-07-23, 18:04

Re: Official Ashes Thread

Originally posted by TWGL1 View Post

New footage has emerged of Bairstow following his dismissal

https://twitter.com/razor5edge/statu...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

He played and missed a few times there, but definitely middled some aswell.

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