The Budget

[MOZZER2]

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"Still fuming at all the brilliant people who got made redundant in October because Rishi Sunak refused to extend furlough until there were just hours to go before the deadline, by which time decisions had already been made. They could have kept their jobs for another year" - https://twitter.com/RMCunliffe/statu...84836058525705

Do you think that's a fair comment? The challenges of winter surely could have been more expected?

thats exactly what happened to my lad . would still be in the same job now all for the sake of a few hours

[blue matt]

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"Still fuming at all the brilliant people who got made redundant in October because Rishi Sunak refused to extend furlough until there were just hours to go before the deadline, by which time decisions had already been made. They could have kept their jobs for another year" - https://twitter.com/RMCunliffe/statu...84836058525705

Do you think that's a fair comment? The challenges of winter surely could have been more expected?

yes of course that was a mistake, a massive mistake

but as we were learning different things, Most still had hopes ( in Oct ) that we had seen the back of Covid and lockdowns, it was all pretty fluid , ideally it should have been in place that furlough was on a rolling date, i guess they have learnt that and thus we see it still available for Sept

Back to the extended Furlough / SE help and the Universal increase, they are really trying to look after them who need it

[Tuerto]

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Lets be honest here ( and i know some will of course refuse to see it ) , this budget has been decent for the low income / working class, Furlough / SE help scheme ( which will save jobs ) and the continuation of the £20 uplift to Universal credit cannot be knocked

of course we will see the people saying " front line workers should have got a pay rise "

This government has tried its best with Furlough / SE help for over 1 year, not sure many other countries have gone that far to help

Boris was forced into a few socialist lite fiscal policies. I bet that it's boiling his piss.

[goats]

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my guess is the Government think we might still be having ( maybe local ) restrictions, so its in place for them ? ? ?

Travel, hotels airlines etc.....?

[ninian opinian]

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Corbyn was a radical communist for wanting to raise corporation tax to 26%. Sunak is a hero and saviour for raising CT to 25%.

[ninian opinian]

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Freezing personal allowances (which the highest earners don't get) or tax thresholds (which are insignificant to the highest earners) increases the blended rates of income tax paid by lower earners but not (or less than) that paid by the highest earners.

[xsnaggle]

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A week ago people were creaming for him to extend furlough and the £20 a week uplift. He has done that. Now they say he hasn't done it for long enough. There is no way he is ever going to win that battle. Whatever they are given people always want more.

[surge]

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yes of course that was a mistake, a massive mistake

but as we were learning different things, Most still had hopes ( in Oct ) that we had seen the back of Covid and lockdowns, it was all pretty fluid , ideally it should have been in place that furlough was on a rolling date, i guess they have learnt that and thus we see it still available for Sept

Back to the extended Furlough / SE help and the Universal increase, they are really trying to look after them who need it

Not SAGE who had recommended circuit breaker by the 21st of September. Around the same time that Sunak was introducing herd immunity scientists into the conversation though?

There have been workers left out of support all together: newly self employed (200K), new starters (300K), PAYE freelancers (390K), those who are part-time employed and part-time self-employed (1.175million) and many more not helped throughout the pandemic.

As ever with budgets there will be some good (increasing corporation tax but keeping it lowest in G7 is an example of improvement, keeping £20 uplift) and some bad, but my bias says you're being very lenient on someone who seems to be better at delivering a message than getting the message right.

[xsnaggle]

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I'm one of thsoe who fell down the middle regarding employed/self employed help. And I couldn't get any other help either.

As for the advice given/taken. I always take advice from doctors and scientists with a pinch of salt. They will always tell you the worst possible outcome as the likeliest one (Although this time they may have been right) and they are very loathe to agree with any good news, always wanting to temper it with a dose of foreboding doom and gloom. It's just in their nature.
It like your doctor always tells you 'You mustn't drink' when you are taking this or that medicine. It doesn't really make any difference but they instinctively want to stop people drinking. (Even though half of them drink too much themselves)

[goats]

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Time to scrap that hs2 train line save a few 100 billion....

[surge]

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“Buried in this is a return to smaller public services, cutting public sector budgets, cutting hospital budgets, freezing pay.”

Labour take but, if accurate, isn't ten years of slashing away at services, cuts to real health budgets part of why we struggled so much with the pandemic in the first place?

[Gofer Blue]

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Time to scrap that hs2 train line save a few 100 billion....

Spot on. They can scrap it now "with honour" by citing the cost of the pandemic - the perfect get out clause.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I'm one of thsoe who fell down the middle regarding employed/self employed help. And I couldn't get any other help either.

As for the advice given/taken. I always take advice from doctors and scientists with a pinch of salt. They will always tell you the worst possible outcome as the likeliest one (Although this time they may have been right) and they are very loathe to agree with any good news, always wanting to temper it with a dose of foreboding doom and gloom. It's just in their nature.
It like your doctor always tells you 'You mustn't drink' when you are taking this or that medicine. It doesn't really make any difference but they instinctively want to stop people drinking. (Even though half of them drink too much themselves)

Who do you take medial advice from and who do you refer to regarding science?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Labour take but, if accurate, isn't ten years of slashing away at services, cuts to real health budgets part of why we struggled so much with the pandemic in the first place?

I think the statistics show that whilst the UK has suffered more than most with the pandemic, there have been staggering differences between countries due to other factors. The UK has seen 1817 deaths per million. India 113. That's just 7% compared with the UK. India's a poorer country per capita, much more densely populated, and large families living under one roof. However India has one of the lowest BMI's at 21. The UK's is over 27.

[Rjk]

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looks like a kick in the teeth for key workers after a year they've had won't be forgotten by the British Public me thinks

I remember reading that voters overwhelmingly focus on the last 12-18 month before an election, anything much before that is often irrelevant