Robinson and Colwill.

[J R Hartley]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Risky game calling players out in public in this way, especially as by own admission he hasn’t spoken to Robinson first to let him know he’s not happy him. Poor form really.

He does have the touch of the Colin’s about him on that nothing is ever his fault and he’ll happily throw the players under the bus first.

[Tuerto]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Risky game calling players out in public in this way, especially as by own admission he hasn’t spoken to Robinson first to let him know he’s not happy him. Poor form really.

He does have the touch of the Colin’s about him on that nothing is ever his fault and he’ll happily throw the players under the bus first.

I don't like him naming players like that, it could blow up in his face.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Perhaps Bulut will give Colwill 90 seconds at the end of tomorrow's game to prove him wrong.

[Lord Worcester]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Perhaps Bulut will give Colwill 90 seconds at the end of tomorrow's game to prove him wrong.

He might, but I doubt it.

[D. Advocaat]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

I don't agree, why is it okay for one type of player (defenders) to contribute little as attackers, but not okay for attacking players to contribute little as defenders? It's illogical.

As I said, I'm not naive enough to think that you drop players like Collins, Goutas, McGuinness and Sipios because they don't offer a great deal in an attacking or creative sense, but where is the consistency of thought to a process which does not treat the ten outfield players in the same way?

You use the term "dedicated defender" - the one I'm thinking of here is "out and out defender", why is acceptable to have out and out defenders, but, seemingly, not okay to have out and out attackers?

I agree that the two players concerned could do more defensively, but, watching us at Middlesbrough and then against Watford, it seems to me that Bulut is in danger of cutting off his nose to spite his face - is playing someone like Wintle in such an attacking role giving us more overall than what we lose by having the, apparently, defensively suspect Robinson or Colwill there?

I mentioned before on here that most managers appear to be okay with a 7/4 defensive/attacking make up to their team, Bulut wants an 8/3 split.

Over the last couple of games we seem to have regressed to a standard Cardiff City 'keep shape and nick a goal' side. I'd much prefer the entertaining chaos of a free scoring City team playing attacking football, at the risk of conceding goals, than a side based on hard work and grinding out 1-0 wins with a goal from a set piece. Robinson is a proven Championship player with genuine attacking quality and, if fit, he should play.

[jon1959]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

I don't like Bulut calling out players the way he did - especially with Robinson before he had had the conversation with him.

I didn't like it with Morison either.

There are times and places and ways of making a point - and both barrels in a pre match press conference is probably wrong on all counts. Otherwise (bar a few odd selections) he has been an impressive breathe of fresh air - a real manager with a vision, a plan and a load of self confidence. It can be infectious!

But I mostly agree with the position he has taken - and I think he is doing it from a stance of making two good players better.

It may be a mistake to exclude Colwill and Robinson from the starting 11 if he doesn't think they are defending well enough from the front. He may be losing more from them than he gains from the less talented players that do the hard work. But if he can get the reaction he wants it will be worth it for the short term pain.

I expect Colwill to do the same as Tanner when given the Bulut treatment. Not so sure about Robbo - but hope he does too.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

I want Colwill to succeed as much as the rest of us but I don't think it's much to ask for him to work a little harder off the ball. That doesn't mean he has to defend like some of you are suggesting. He just has to work harder in his zone of the pitch. I really hope he gets this because I am sick and tired of seeing a city team with 3 DMs in midfield.

[rich munn]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

I don't like Bulut calling out players the way he did - especially with Robinson before he had had the conversation with him.

I didn't like it with Morison either.

There are times and places and ways of making a point - and both barrels in a pre match press conference is probably wrong on all counts. Otherwise (bar a few odd selections) he has been an impressive breathe of fresh air - a real manager with a vision, a plan and a load of self confidence. It can be infectious!

But I mostly agree with the position he has taken - and I think he is doing it from a stance of making two good players better.

It may be a mistake to exclude Colwill and Robinson from the starting 11 if he doesn't think they are defending well enough from the front. He may be losing more from them than he gains from the less talented players that do the hard work. But if he can get the reaction he wants it will be worth it for the short term pain.

I expect Colwill to do the same as Tanner when given the Bulut treatment. Not so sure about Robbo - but hope he does too.

He did something similar with Tanner early in the season and Tanner has been excellent since.

I very much doubt that either Colwill or Robinson didn't know what the manager wants from them.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

The classic 'you're not a football manager' argument when someone has a different opinion. And of all the comparisons made the Pep one makes me laugh the most. Got to be honest, I never fully appreciated that if Rubin played we are guaranteed to lose 3-1. Now I know.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-city-grealish-guardiola-doku-30986767

Jack Grealish handed Man City warning after Pep Guardiola's "incredible" admission
Jack Grealish is still Manchester City's most expensive player of all time but has been sent a warning on his place in the side with Pep Guardiola aiming to add to the treble he won last season.

Jack Grealish has been warned that he needs to work “harder” to keep his place at Manchester City following the arrival of Jeremy Doku.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

The classic 'you're not a football manager' argument when someone has a different opinion. And of all the comparisons made the Pep one makes me laugh the most. Got to be honest, I never fully appreciated that if Rubin played we are guaranteed to lose 3-1. Now I know.

If less than eleven men are playing full pelt without the ball we leak goals, you watched the start of the season, Bulut improved the attacking options but we needed three goals to get a win, he's now tightened things up and has the team working harder without the ball, and if we score two we usually win. Play a number ten that won't put in a shift, we will leak goals again, it's basic stuff.

Buluts told them, do what I want or don't play, I think he'll get a response, lets wait and see it worked with Tanner a treat and now what a player.

[Tuerto]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...-doku-30986767

Jack Grealish handed Man City warning after Pep Guardiola's "incredible" admission
Jack Grealish is still Manchester City's most expensive player of all time but has been sent a warning on his place in the side with Pep Guardiola aiming to add to the treble he won last season.

Jack Grealish has been warned that he needs to work “harder” to keep his place at Manchester City following the arrival of Jeremy Doku.

The bloke doesn't know what he's talking about.......

[J R Hartley]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...-doku-30986767

Jack Grealish handed Man City warning after Pep Guardiola's "incredible" admission
Jack Grealish is still Manchester City's most expensive player of all time but has been sent a warning on his place in the side with Pep Guardiola aiming to add to the treble he won last season.

Jack Grealish has been warned that he needs to work “harder” to keep his place at Manchester City following the arrival of Jeremy Doku.

Warned by who? Pep? Publicly? Or some ex player turned pundit? Lay of the ket, Feedy.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Warned by who? Pep? Publicly? Or some ex player turned pundit? Lay of the ket, Feedy.

Only just looked at the story and it’s not really what it was painted as when the link was posted is it. Also, I can’t find anything directly saying that Grealish has to work harder in the areas our manager seems so concerned about. In fact, the article seems all about what Grealish does when he has the ball.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

If less than eleven men are playing full pelt without the ball we leak goals, you watched the start of the season, Bulut improved the attacking options but we needed three goals to get a win, he's now tightened things up and has the team working harder without the ball, and if we score two we usually win. Play a number ten that won't put in a shift, we will leak goals again, it's basic stuff.

Buluts told them, do what I want or don't play, I think he'll get a response, lets wait and see it worked with Tanner a treat and now what a player.

Out of interest, when’s the last time Tanner beat his marker in the manner he was doing so often in the early weeks of the season - maybe all of the effort of spending most of his time covering defensively in his own half for much of our last couple of games was tiring him out?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Warned by who? Pep? Publicly? Or some ex player turned pundit? Lay of the ket, Feedy.

Jesus this ones thick

Who do you think, Pep it's blatantly obvious.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-evening-headlines-news-27814691

Keep on the Smack and finish the last few brain cells.