Robinson and Colwill.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Out of interest, when’s the last time Tanner beat his marker in the manner he was doing so often in the early weeks of the season - maybe all of the effort of spending most of his time covering defensively in his own half for much of our last couple of games was tiring him out?

Probably since Ramsey has been out and he has become one of our main threats.

It was pretty obvious after tearing Swansea apart he was going to get more attention as teams plan to stop him playing.

Bowler is playing well, a few weeks off and hopefully he will come back stronger.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Only just looked at the story and it’s not really what it was painted as when the link was posted is it. Also, I can’t find anything directly saying that Grealish has to work harder in the areas our manager seems so concerned about. In fact, the article seems all about what Grealish does when he has the ball.

Here you go Bob, Pep often asks more from his players, most good Managers do.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-evening-headlines-news-27814691

[J R Hartley]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Jesus this ones thick :hehe:

Who do you think, Pep it's blatantly obvious.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-evening-headlines-news-27814691

Keep on the Smack and finish the last few brain cells.

Where’s the quotes from Pep in either link you’ve posted?

Mental

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Out of interest, when’s the last time Tanner beat his marker in the manner he was doing so often in the early weeks of the season - maybe all of the effort of spending most of his time covering defensively in his own half for much of our last couple of games was tiring him out?

There surely has to be a line - how much of an attacking player's creativity is Bulut prepared to sacrifice for that player's defensive duty? Dave Jones, as an example, gave Peter Whittingham quite a bit of freedom from his defensive duty if it meant him being more creative at the other end of the pitch. Malky Mackay was much more demanding of Whitts. I might be wrong, but I can't see Bulut being anywhere near as strict with Rambo as he is being with Robinson and Colwill.

At the moment, Bulut seems to be totally happy for us to have little creativity as long as it makes us stronger defensively. It's working to a fashion. We've gone from having one of the worst defensive records earlier in the season to having currently the 10th best. We've also gone from being one of the division's top scorers to a side where 10 other teams in the division have scored less than us. I fully appreciate that losing Ramsey is a big factor in that, but for Bulut to prefer a defensive midfielder in a sort of no.10 position than 2 players who are more attacking there, suggests he's now happy to cling on to 0-0 draws and hope to pinch a point. As a result our football is now as bad as it was last season, we offer no threat and we're losing games as a result.

[Doucas]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

OK so you know better than the manager, let's go back to conceding two or three a game and Cowlill playing a nice few moves and tricks and losing 3-1, sack Bulut and start again with a new manager shipping another load of players in and out.

It's tough love from an experienced Manager, give me a better work ethic if you want to play, good on him, this team can't afford any luxury players.

Pep does exactly the same to world-class players, working for the team or warming the bench eventually players like Grealish and Foden get it, and become Premier League and Champions League-winning world-class players.

Ah yes, I forgot you aren't allowed opinions in football otherwise you know better than the manager.

But yeah I'm going to stick my neck out and say playing Robinson or Colwill would work much better than Wintle in #10. Everyone can see it apart from you and Bulut.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

OK so you know better than the manager, let's go back to conceding two or three a game and Cowlill playing a nice few moves and tricks and losing 3-1

Whereas we're now being ultra defensive, not scoring at all and losing 1 or 2-0.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Here you go Bob, Pep often asks more from his players, most good Managers do.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...-news-27814691

I’ve still not seen a link where Pep is telling Grealish he won’t be picking him because he’s not doing enough when Man City don’t have the ball though.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Our fans seem to have an unhealthy relationship with Colwill, partly down to be desperatation for him to succeed as a local academy boy. We seem to have one side saying he’s the best thing since sliced bread and another saying he’s not up to it and saying how poor he was today for 15mins. Kind of feel sorry for him, managers comments to me seem right but I’m not sure he’s the type to react, he seems very laid back. I’m certain he needs games somewhere tho.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

I’ve still not seen a link where Pep is telling Grealish he won’t be picking him because he’s not doing enough when Man City don’t have the ball though.

Pep dropped Aguero for this very reason.

For what it’s worth, I think it is odd to say the least. Robinson is our best player in my opinion.

[Bobby Dandruff]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Pep dropped Aguero for this very reason.

For what it’s worth, I think it is odd to say the least. Robinson is our best player in my opinion.

Our best player?

Whereas Robinson is one of our more gifted players there is no way that he is our best player!

That is like saying that Marlon Pack was our best player.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

What's odd to me is not that he necessarily feels that about Colwill and Robinson... it's clear that Colwill still doesn't have the fitness or the pace to press like Bulut wants for 90 minutes and Robinson hasn't looked particularly interested in the games he has played and you assume Bulut sees the same in training. Although in that case it still makes no sense Colwill was given a contract, I don't think he was showing Bulut something in preseason that he isn't now.

But it is odd that he seems to roll out Ugbo and Grant every game in that case. After his early season goal scoring "exploits" Ugbo basically contributes nothing on either end, and yet twice he's been the player he turns to when he's not happy with the effort Tanner has put in. It basically feels like we play with 10 with Ugbo on the pitch, and yet I guess he runs around enough for Bulut to feel like he's trying? You could say the same about Grant, he's had a couple good games but other than that he's mostly anonymous. Seems very much like it's one standard for one set of players and one for another... as noted I'd much rather see a player like Robinson who has the quality at this level given a chance than one like Ugbo who quite clearly so far doesn't.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

What's odd to me is not that he necessarily feels that about Colwill and Robinson... it's clear that Colwill still doesn't have the fitness or the pace to press like Bulut wants for 90 minutes and Robinson hasn't looked particularly interested in the games he has played and you assume Bulut sees the same in training. Although in that case it still makes no sense Colwill was given a contract, I don't think he was showing Bulut something in preseason that he isn't now.

But it is odd that he seems to roll out Ugbo and Grant every game in that case. After his early season goal scoring "exploits" Ugbo basically contributes nothing on either end, and yet twice he's been the player he turns to when he's not happy with the effort Tanner has put in. It basically feels like we play with 10 with Ugbo on the pitch, and yet I guess he runs around enough for Bulut to feel like he's trying? You could say the same about Grant, he's had a couple good games but other than that he's mostly anonymous. Seems very much like it's one standard for one set of players and one for another... as noted I'd much rather see a player like Robinson who has the quality at this level given a chance than one like Ugbo who quite clearly so far doesn't.

I think Meite and Etete are now ahead of Ugbo, both their injuries coming at the same time didn’t help. The only other real option upfront is Robinson who he doesn’t seem to think can do it. I would be surprised not to see Meite upfront Tuesday.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

I think Meite and Etete are now ahead of Ugbo, both their injuries coming at the same time didn’t help. The only other real option upfront is Robinson who he doesn’t seem to think can do it. I would be surprised not to see Meite upfront Tuesday.

I would love to see us set up differently.

Ugbo is rubbish and Etete is quite not ready.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

I would love to see us set up differently.

Ugbo is rubbish and Etete is quite not ready.

Generally agree about Etete but thought he was showing some good form and improving his general play before the injury.

It’s very clear we need another striker and if we had managed to get Moore I think the whole team would looka lot different.

[Tuerto]

Re: Robinson and Colwill.

Generally agree about Etete but thought he was showing some good form and improving his general play before the injury.

It’s very clear we need another striker and if we had managed to get Moore I think the whole team would looka lot different.

Etete has the ability to turn a defender, his general play is much better than Ugbos'