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  • #91
    Re: How do young people cope?

    Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Yes, out of touch, boomers havent got the first clue the financial pressures young people of today face. Rent is taking up more than 50% of peoples wages ffs. Thats before all the other bills and taxes on top. The kids of today wont be retiring in their 50s, getting caravans down west, or a nice little apartment in the med because they easily paid off their mortgage before they were 40.
    Maybe they ought to do without takeaways...mobile phones....netflix etc etc....we all had pressures then......aka I could not afford a proper bed....I filled my bath with hot water from the kettle because the HW tank was broken and I could not afford to fix it.........get real....

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    • #92
      Re: How do young people cope?

      Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
      Maybe they ought to do without takeaways...mobile phones....netflix etc etc....we all had pressures then......aka I could not afford a proper bed....I filled my bath with hot water from the kettle because the HW tank was broken and I could not afford to fix it.........get real....
      Can’t you grasp that there are people who work hard, day in/day out, who just can’t keep their head above water. People like you telling them to ‘get real’ is so insulting. Well done to you, you got on, became a comfortable immigrant, to attain that is impossible for many, no matter how many hours they put in. Some are caught in a vicious circle with no escape, rent, food and a few home comforts is all they can afford with not a chance of putting a few bob away.

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      • #93
        Re: How do young people cope?

        Originally posted by splott parker View Post
        Can’t you grasp that there are people who work hard, day in/day out, who just can’t keep their head above water. People like you telling them to ‘get real’ is so insulting. Well done to you, you got on, became a comfortable immigrant, to attain that is impossible for many, no matter how many hours they put in. Some are caught in a vicious circle with no escape, rent, food and a few home comforts is all they can afford with not a chance of putting a few bob away.
        Quite honestly that is bollocks....you don't think I / we worked hard in past times? I used to commute two hours each way....You don't think I/we struggled to get on the housing ladder....? I didn't get a car until I was 25.....we bought second hand furniture....don't give me that crap - it was no different then.

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        • #94
          Re: How do young people cope?

          Originally posted by splott parker View Post
          Can’t you grasp that there are people who work hard, day in/day out, who just can’t keep their head above water. People like you telling them to ‘get real’ is so insulting. Well done to you, you got on, became a comfortable immigrant, to attain that is impossible for many, no matter how many hours they put in. Some are caught in a vicious circle with no escape, rent, food and a few home comforts is all they can afford with not a chance of putting a few bob away.
          Get real, we all know that they would be buying that house right now if they cancelled their £7.99 subscription to netflix.

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          • #95
            Re: How do young people cope?

            Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
            Maybe they ought to do without takeaways...mobile phones....netflix etc etc....we all had pressures then......aka I could not afford a proper bed....I filled my bath with hot water from the kettle because the HW tank was broken and I could not afford to fix it.........get real....
            Put the Daily Mail down Maurice you f-ing clown

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            • #96
              Re: How do young people cope?

              People taking the piss earlier in the thread about people with their Starbucks and avocado on toast, and in typical fashion here comes Maurice falling hook line and sinker for the crap they put in the press.

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              • #97
                Re: How do young people cope?

                Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
                Put the Daily Mail down Maurice you f-ing clown
                I sometimes wonder how someone can repeatedly embarrass himself.

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                • #98
                  Re: How do young people cope?

                  Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
                  There were 6.4 million people on Universal Credit in January 2024. 39% of them were in work - but not earning enough to live.

                  Is the 'mess' you speak of people claiming benefits (many don't claim who could) or the levels of pay that mean they cannot survive without?

                  The benefits system is a mess - the UC 'reforms' didn't resolve that and in many ways made it worse - but the underlying problem is poverty and low pay (and high housing and utilities costs). I'm sure you have your reasons for blaming 'soft leftie types' for all that but I think there are more obvious targets.
                  I was talking to someone who is on UC recently. Apparently, every month they calculate how much UC you get from your earnings, but they take something like 55p for every £1 you earn. Say that person is asked if they can do an extra couple of hours another day on minimum wage. With what they lose out on from UC, they'll make perhaps £12 for 2 hours work, minus any transport costs, perhaps even childcare costs. That doesn't incentivise work.

                  Also, if you have hours that can vary, you could be in a position where that doesn't affect your UC until the following month, so you could think you're doing well one month, then your UC drops quite a bit and you're in a spot of bother.

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                  • #99
                    Re: How do young people cope?

                    We are seeing capitalism failing miserably as predicted by many.

                    Unchallenged greed from the richest which has infected our politics means we can't take the actions needed to provide basic necessities for British people e.g. housing.

                    It's always the same, people who say look after our own first completely lose their minds at programmes aimed to help the neediest in the UK.

                    This isn't all older people, it's good to see many on here recognise the challenges that young people face, but I swear a significant percentage of you have had your brains completely scrambled by lead paint as kids and for some reason you froth at the mouth at the possibility of recognising that society has regressed significantly under your watch.

                    To those saying go without netflix, I think comments like that show how out of touch you are with the reality of things at the moment, budgeting and working harder can no longer overcome systematic failures.

                    I bought my house in 2012 while in my early 20s, if I were looking to buy today instead I wouldn't be able to buy my own house which to me is staggering.

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                    • Re: How do young people cope?

                      Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                      We are seeing capitalism failing miserably as predicted by many.

                      Unchallenged greed from the richest which has infected our politics means we can't take the actions needed to provide basic necessities for British people e.g. housing.

                      It's always the same, people who say look after our own first completely lose their minds at programmes aimed to help the neediest in the UK.

                      This isn't all older people, it's good to see many on here recognise the challenges that young people face, but I swear a significant percentage of you have had your brains completely scrambled by lead paint as kids and for some reason you froth at the mouth at the possibility of recognising that society has regressed significantly under your watch.

                      To those saying go without netflix, I think comments like that show how out of touch you are with the reality of things at the moment, budgeting and working harder can no longer overcome systematic failures.

                      I bought my house in 2012 while in my early 20s, if I were looking to buy today instead I wouldn't be able to buy my own house which to me is staggering.
                      So much is true in this post. Well said.

                      The comment you made, which I've highlighted in bold, sums things up so much.

                      Cut overseas aid. Let's not send millions to the EU. Let's look after ourselves.

                      "I can't get a new knee for 2 years. I've paid into the NHS all my life and I should be a priority." etc etc

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                      • Re: How do young people cope?

                        Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
                        I sometimes wonder how someone can repeatedly embarrass himself.
                        So do I, but you never fail to deliver.

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                        • Re: How do young people cope?

                          Originally posted by Canton Kev View Post
                          So do I, but you never fail to deliver.
                          Aint that the truth.

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                          • Re: How do young people cope?

                            Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
                            I sometimes wonder how someone can repeatedly embarrass himself.
                            You were questioning black people’s haircuts the other week, dear God, you don’t live in France, you live on another planet. You bang on how you struggled, had bugger all but came through and made good and well done to you. This is because there were opportunities to do this in the past, those opportunities have, sadly, vanished for many, many hard working, decent people. You criticise them for attempting to live a normal life, giving their kids things they can barely afford. These folk are doing the best they can, making their homes as comfortable as possible, living as comfortable as possible despite the odds being against them.

                            You’ve made it quite clear that you sneer at struggling families because it’s all their own fault and the fact that they try and not get left behind is despicable and freeloading. And you’re not keen on those bloody black people having haircuts of their choice!!

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                            • Re: How do young people cope?

                              Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                              You were questioning black people’s haircuts the other week, dear God, you don’t live in France, you live on another planet. You bang on how you struggled, had bugger all but came through and made good and well done to you. This is because there were opportunities to do this in the past, those opportunities have, sadly, vanished for many, many hard working, decent people. You criticise them for attempting to live a normal life, giving their kids things they can barely afford. These folk are doing the best they can, making their homes as comfortable as possible, living as comfortable as possible despite the odds being against them.

                              You’ve made it quite clear that you sneer at struggling families because it’s all their own fault and the fact that they try and not get left behind is despicable and freeloading. And you’re not keen on those bloody black people having haircuts of their choice!!
                              He would prefer le Pen over Macron as well. And when called an immigrant, his reply indirect reply was that he was superior in comparison to other 'Immigrants'

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