Lets Have a Sensible Debate -Part 1

[The Lone Gunman]

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What signings are you refering too??

Ramsey, Siopis and Turnbull, obviously. Who did you think I was referring to?

[llan bluebird]

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I watched Fernandez yesterday and Odengard today for both wear 8 (maybe coincidence) but have such free roles. Both come deep to get the ball, travel forward, pass and keep moving towards the goal.

When I look at Rubins skillset, obviously nowhere near that level but a Poundland version of those two, but where would Bulut play them in Bulut ball?

[LA Bluebird]

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To be fair, Arteta may have been on the blower to Erol for his tactics in the second half here

[life on mars]

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Ramsey, Siopis and Turnbull, obviously. Who did you think I was referring to?

I was interested in what you deemed as backing ??

Ramsey busted flush waste of money probably not Managers choice .

Siopis dogged midfielder which we have plenty off ..


Turnbill?? Busted flush Celtic squad player .

Sorry if thats not backing , its lacking and cheap options.

Every manager since Harris has cried out for a real forward after Kieffer left , real backing is getting a forward in plus a creative midfielder and speedy winger, buying Kipree..

What you suggest are cheap fill in's ......

[life on mars]

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You've got to play him as a 10 but you've got to have mobile attack minded players around him who want to play forward.

He's not good enough , if he was that good Wales would play him at number 10 and we would be in the Euros due to his emphatic number 10 talent ??

You.have to wonder since coming onto the scene why he's not had a team built around him at number10 , there's been a few managers that had not applied that tactic, question is why ??

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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To be fair, Arteta may have been on the blower to Erol for his tactics in the second half here

Don't think so. Arsenal created a couple of chances on the break from open play.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Don't think so. Arsenal created a couple of chances on the break from open play.

Bring back warnock

[The Lone Gunman]

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What you suggest are cheap fill in's ......

I haven’t suggested anything other than I believe Bulut has been backed. After all, he’s been allowed to bring in fourteen new players and I’m confident the club’s wage bill is bigger this season than it was last.

Of course, he’s not been allowed to throw multi-millions around in terms of transfer fees and wages, but that’s down to a combination of economic realities and the rules. He’s no different in that respect to most Championship managers, is he?

[Sparticus_Mills]

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Would it be fair to say Wales U21 do build their team around him and with some success, I'd even go far to say he's is the outstanding player in the U21 team. I don't think our manager plays a system that suites our best players, as has been said previously, he tries to shoehorn players into his, and it hasn't worked.

[olderblue]

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Would it be fair to say Wales U21 do build their team around him and with some success, I'd even go far to say he's is the outstanding player in the U21 team. I don't think our manager plays a system that suites our best players, as has been said previously, he tries to shoehorn players into his, and it hasn't worked.

You can build a team around a creative player, if you have the balls and imagination to play football in an exciting attacking system.

If you’re shit scared of losing then you set up so defensively that you don’t need creativity in your team, in fact a creative skilful footballer would look out of place as a square peg in a round hole.

If you’re dogmatic and carry on losing, you might just keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

Bulut isn’t a good, progressive coach, his football is dire, he won’t take risks and he’s bored the pants off most fans these days

He could have played with one holding midfielder on Friday and gone for it, he didn’t, he won’t and until he’s gone in the summer, any creativity will be parked, hopefully waiting for a decent coach to turn up.

[life on mars]

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I haven’t suggested anything other than I believe Bulut has been backed. After all, he’s been allowed to bring in fourteen new players and I’m confident the club’s wage bill is bigger this season than it was last.

Of course, he’s not been allowed to throw multi-millions around in terms of transfer fees and wages, but that’s down to a combination of economic realities and the rules. He’s no different in that respect to most Championship managers, is he?

I would argue he has done well with what he's been given, the Rambo one us where it probably pushes the value up without any return. Bet he'd rather had 2 or 3 fit seasoned players in rather than one who had hardly played.

After the Norwich defeat we had a great run of results. We didn't turn up at the Jacks which for me was an appalling effort by the players.

We beat a decent side today .

For me he has something to offer as a manager a number of players have flourished most notably NG, Grant .Sipos, Ralls, Goutas ,Alnwick, Bowler. Collins .

I do wonder how we'd be if :

O'Dowda & Rambo had stayed fit .

Robinson delivered on his undoubted skills .

Bought back Hugill and Kipree

Tanner & Colwill (built) on thier promise .

And the club really backed him and got in a decent striker instead of washed up journeymen forwards .

[life on mars]

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Would it be fair to say Wales U21 do build their team around him and with some success, I'd even go far to say he's is the outstanding player in the U21 team. I don't think our manager plays a system that suites our best players, as has been said previously, he tries to shoehorn players into his, and it hasn't worked.

Were 11th , if we had drawn at the Jacks and won at home to Sunderland, we would be 7th on 60 points, 4 points off 6th placed Norwich.

No Championship side is going to build a team around Colwill he is not at that stage, and may never be .

U21 International games are a world away from the rigours of the Championship , at times they appear to be non committal blown up training sessions when winning against the mighty Lithuanians , Gibraltar, Iceland U21's.

Over the last few years big boy U21's like Belgium , Holland & Switzerland stuck 15 goals on us .

[MOZZER2]

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Rubin's stats last night

��Rubin Colwill vs Birmingham City:

45 Minutes
1 Assist
26 Touches
17 Passes
3 Chances Created
1 Successful Dribble
2 Passes into the Final Third
1 Accurate Long Ball
2 Recoveries
2 Ground Duels Won
2 Was Fouled#CardiffCity pic.twitter.com/uLOqTSBuLa

— ccfcinsider (@ccfcinsiderr) April 10, 2024

[J R Hartley]

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Were 11th , if we had drawn at the Jacks and won at home to Sunderland, we would be 7th on 60 points, 4 points off 6th placed Norwich.

No Championship side is going to build a team around Colwill he is not at that stage, and may never be .

U21 International games are a world away from the rigours of the Championship , at times they appear to be non committal blown up training sessions when winning against the mighty Lithuanians , Gibraltar, Iceland U21's.

Over the last few years big boy U21's like Belgium , Holland & Switzerland stuck 15 goals on us .

If youre auntie had bollocks she would be your uncle.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I haven’t suggested anything other than I believe Bulut has been backed. After all, he’s been allowed to bring in fourteen new players and I’m confident the club’s wage bill is bigger this season than it was last.

Of course, he’s not been allowed to throw multi-millions around in terms of transfer fees and wages, but that’s down to a combination of economic realities and the rules. He’s no different in that respect to most Championship managers, is he?

He had a limited choice of players, we were placed under an EFL transfer embargo, so only partly backed and the players he did want in January were out of reach.