Trust statement on manager situation.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

The lack of clarity from the club shows how much we are missing leadership at the top.
An owner who lives in Malaysia, a chairman in Monaco and a CEO who only works 1 day a week.
I genuinely fear for the long term.
Look at Wrexham. Owners in USA and appoint a very well respected CEO to run what was a non league club 2 years ago.
The supporters can see it, why the hell can't Tan. Surely he cant be a complete fool to have become a billionaire.

We've had two promotions so probably Tan thinks the club can be run on these lines, but those were times when we could quite reasonably claim to have one of the better Championship teams, and any relative silence form the club hierarchy wasn't a problem. The club now feels not dissimilar to the pre-Hammam era when any vestige of hope, anticipation and enthusiasm has been extinguished. As you say, just one person who can communicate effectively with the supporters and media, isn't going to break the bank. I can't criticise Tan for his financial commitment to the club but he's a complete fool when it comes to understanding how the 'relationship' between club and supporters works

[pipster]

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"I think it is fair to say that an extended contract for the current manager does not necessarily have 100% support amongst the fans."

1. Is there a football club where the manager has 100% support from the fans?
2. How does the trust know? - have they polled trust members to ask them?, how many trust members responded to the poll ? - how many trust members are there compared to season ticket holders ?

If they have the numbers - perhaps they could let everyone know, if they dont then they need to admit - they have no idea how many do or dont support Bulut.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

"I think it is fair to say that an extended contract for the current manager does not necessarily have 100% support amongst the fans."

1. Is there a football club where the manager has 100% support from the fans?
2. How does the trust know? - have they polled trust members to ask them?, how many trust members responded to the poll ? - how many trust members are there compared to season ticket holders ?

If they have the numbers - perhaps they could let everyone know, if they dont then they need to admit - they have no idea how many do or dont support Bulut.

There are a few ways we can judge supporter happiness or discourse

Season ticket holders or lack of

Supporters Club numbers

Trust representation

I would say that that the trust is in a very good position to be able to make albeit general comments regarding club issues as together with season ticket holders , supporters club membership numbers it represents more fans , legitimately that this and other sites , Facebook , twitter , blokes down the pub

Are you expecting the trust to do a poll on bulut and publish it like walesonline do ?

[the other bob wilson]

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"I think it is fair to say that an extended contract for the current manager does not necessarily have 100% support amongst the fans."

1. Is there a football club where the manager has 100% support from the fans?
2. How does the trust know? - have they polled trust members to ask them?, how many trust members responded to the poll ? - how many trust members are there compared to season ticket holders ?

If they have the numbers - perhaps they could let everyone know, if they dont then they need to admit - they have no idea how many do or dont support Bulut.

You’re as daft on here as you are on the other board! This thread should tell you that there isn’t 100 per cent support for Bulut among the fan base.

However, unlike some others in this thread, I make no claims as to how many fans are for or against our manager, but what I will say is that any season ticket holder at Cardiff City Stadium that said they got full value for money and enjoyed their season must have spent their hundreds of pounds, first, for the chance of a few pints with their mates and, second, for the football.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest, a lot of that rhetoric is taken from a few messageboards with how many posters out of our total fan base? I guarantee when the club announce his extension the response will be overwhelmingly positive on social media or if he leaves extremely negative, which will have a far far larger sample size of our fan base than CCMB, *****' board and the other one.

A relatively small group of 50+ year olds throwing their toys out of the pram because they don't like the football on offer does not mean the 'fan base is split'.

Aye, there are three fans on CCMB but they post a lot, you can all name them.

[Henry Hill]

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Always find then Trust and Keith Morgan’s statements very Accidental Partridge. Just can’t take them seriously.

The club treat them like a ginger stepchild. They are about as welcome as a butcher in a vegan convention..

[TWGL1]

Re: Trust statement on manager situation.

You’re as daft on here as you are on the other board! This thread should tell you that there isn’t 100 per cent support for Bulut among the fan base.

However, unlike some others in this thread, I make no claims as to how many fans are for or against our manager, but what I will say is that any season ticket holder at Cardiff City Stadium that said they got full value for money and enjoyed their season must have spent their hundreds of pounds, first, for the chance of a few pints with their mates and, second, for the football.

How many seasons watching Cardiff City since the mid 80’s have been classed value for money , from memory about 10 seasons out of 40. Watching your favourite football team isn’t something that can be considered VFM unless you are a top six side I’d say.

What’s peoples expectations for next year , I’d say the same league position as this year would be a respectable one. Most teams in the Championship play in a way that doesn’t involve much skill , energy ,creativity and enjoyment, it’s all about the result.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest, a lot of that rhetoric is taken from a few messageboards with how many posters out of our total fan base? I guarantee when the club announce his extension the response will be overwhelmingly positive on social media or if he leaves extremely negative, which will have a far far larger sample size of our fan base than CCMB, *****' board and the other one.

A relatively small group of 50+ year olds throwing their toys out of the pram because they don't like the football on offer does not mean the 'fan base is split'.

You keep telling yourself that.

[North Cardiff Blue]

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We've had two promotions so probably Tan thinks the club can be run on these lines, but those were times when we could quite reasonably claim to have one of the better Championship teams, and any relative silence form the club hierarchy wasn't a problem. The club now feels not dissimilar to the pre-Hammam era when any vestige of hope, anticipation and enthusiasm has been extinguished. As you say, just one person who can communicate effectively with the supporters and media, isn't going to break the bank. I can't criticise Tan for his financial commitment to the club but he's a complete fool when it comes to understanding how the 'relationship' between club and supporters works

FFP means we can't compete by spending more, we can only compete by having a plan and working smarter than the rest of the league, so it's a case of can we get lucky with a half decent Manager for a while until they appoint another Morison that will eventually take us down.

[City123]

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I don't even think the fan base is divided to be honest, a lot of that rhetoric is taken from a few messageboards with how many posters out of our total fan base? I guarantee when the club announce his extension the response will be overwhelmingly positive on social media or if he leaves extremely negative, which will have a far far larger sample size of our fan base than CCMB, *****' board and the other one.

A relatively small group of 50+ year olds throwing their toys out of the pram because they don't like the football on offer does not mean the 'fan base is split'.

There are plenty on social media who don't back Bulut and there are plenty in real life who think the football is poor as well

[Henry Hill]

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Trust representation

LOL

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Always find then Trust and Keith Morgan’s statements very Accidental Partridge. Just can’t take them seriously.

The club treat them like a ginger stepchild. They are about as welcome as a butcher in a vegan convention..

Well the fact that the club invites them to meetings suggests they are recognised as the leading fans group

I mean it seems pointless and tiresome complaining about the trust when there is plenty of opportunity to join up and change it or form another group and see how you get on

Or maybe just complain about it from the sidelines

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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LOL

I can see that you have come on here to snipe and that's odd but it's a free country

In terms of who gets to speak to the club and discuss stuff we can't have a free for all

So in the absence of first come first served or a free concert with the directors in but park or down the bay it's supporters , club , trust , away travel organisers etc

What else can you think of ?

[DubaiDai]

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There are plenty on social media who don't back Bulut and there are plenty in real life who think the football is poor as well

I think the frustration in the comments does not revolve on whether Bulit should stay or go, the main issue seems to be that a contract has been offered and refused by Bulut.
The club seems paralysed as to the next step.
I can see the club issuing a statement around mid June stating that Bulut is not returning and the club is now seeking a new manager.
Everything about the board smacks of ameteurism and lack of planning

[Henry Hill]

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Well the fact that the club invites them to meetings suggests they are recognised as the leading fans group

I mean it seems pointless and tiresome complaining about the trust when there is plenty of opportunity to join up and change it or form another group and see how you get on

Or maybe just complain about it from the sidelines

Invites them to meetings? Not out of choice it seems.