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  • Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
    Matched by an absolutely awful ball by walker. 2 to aim at and he whacked it straight into the defender In front of him. Tidy finish by kane
    Fair play to Walker though he did very well to get to that pass even though the defender didn't spot him.

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    • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

      They've got two teams there and with five subs they should be smashing teams in the second half, they are a total shambles Southgate hasn't got a clue.

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      • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

        Southgate might just end up like Alf Ramsey and win it by accident.

        If my memory serves me right (I was only 14), Ramsey started the competition in 1966 with Greaves & Terry Paine playing. I believe both got injured, so instead of playing the other wingers in the squad, he went with what was called at the time “The Wingless Wonders”.

        He didn’t bring his top scorer back (a thing Greaves never forgave him) and the rest is history.

        Southgate is being pressured into change, so if they go on and win it, it’s not good management, it’s actually a weakness in Southgate and his beliefs in coaching

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        • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

          Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
          Southgate might just end up like Alf Ramsey and win it by accident.

          If my memory serves me right (I was only 14), Ramsey started the competition in 1966 with Greaves & Terry Paine playing. I believe both got injured, so instead of playing the other wingers in the squad, he went with what was called at the time “The Wingless Wonders”.

          He didn’t bring his top scorer back (a thing Greaves never forgave him) and the rest is history.

          Southgate is being pressured into change, so if they go on and win it, it’s not good management, it’s actually a weakness in Southgate and his beliefs in coaching
          You can’t win a World Cup by accident 😂
          If England win this tournament, then Southgate will deserve all the credit. If they disappoint, he will get sacked.
          In 66 Alf Ramsay had all strikers fit for the final, and despite Coming under pressure to reinstate Greaves, he stuck to his guns and chose Hurst and Hunt. The rest is history, and AR deserved all the credit he got.

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          • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

            Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
            You can’t win a World Cup by accident ��
            If England win this tournament, then Southgate will deserve all the credit. If they disappoint, he will get sacked.
            In 66 Alf Ramsay had all strikers fit for the final, and despite Coming under pressure to reinstate Greaves, he stuck to his guns and chose Hurst and Hunt. The rest is history, and AR deserved all the credit he got.
            Greaves was first choice going into the finals and he was fit.
            Just looked it up, Hurst had 5 caps, Greaves 51

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            • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

              Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
              Greaves was first choice going into the finals and he was fit.
              Just looked it up, Hurst had 5 caps, Greaves 51
              That’s right. So Ramsay deserves the accolades for sticking with Hurst. It would be similar if England were to get to this final, and Kane is fully fit after an injury, but GS picks say Watkins, who scores the winning goal. All credit would have to go to the manager and his selection.

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              • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                Great goal for Baumgartner, and RB Austria take the lead.

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                • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                  Originally posted by B. Oddie View Post
                  Great goal for Baumgartner, and RB Austria take the lead.
                  I was kinda rooting for Poland, as it would have been good to see the side who knocked us out, to do well at the finals.

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                  • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                    Originally posted by William Treseder View Post
                    That’s right. So Ramsay deserves the accolades for sticking with Hurst. It would be similar if England were to get to this final, and Kane is fully fit after an injury, but GS picks say Watkins, who scores the winning goal. All credit would have to go to the manager and his selection.
                    So, you will concede that Ramsey found his best TEAM by accident (Greaves getting injured) !

                    Yes he stuck with it, but only after outside pressure

                    He “tinkered in 1970 as well, by taking Bobby Charlton off !!
                    That went well didn’t it

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                    • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                      Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
                      So, you will concede that Ramsey found his best TEAM by accident (Greaves getting injured) !

                      Yes he stuck with it, but only after outside pressure

                      He “tinkered in 1970 as well, by taking Bobby Charlton off !!
                      That went well didn’t it
                      He was getting pressured to reinstate Greaves, not stick with Hurst.

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                      • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                        France all that warm especially without Mbappe? Griezmann 33 and past his best. Thuram and Dembele quite average so far. Defensively sound but not clicking up front. Will probably win now with those three scoring.

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                        • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                          They look nothing like favorites without Mbappe, although they should be ahead as how Rabiot and Griezmann managed to cock up that chance I have absolutely no idea.

                          Spain still streets ahead of any other team I've seen, with Germany second right now.

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                          • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                            Originally posted by LA Bluebird View Post
                            They look nothing like favorites without Mbappe, although they should be ahead as how Rabiot and Griezmann managed to cock up that chance I have absolutely no idea.

                            Spain still streets ahead of any other team I've seen, with Germany second right now.
                            It's funny how some of the games you really look forward to end up leaving you feeling flat. This is one of them.

                            Agreed on your top 2, though it'll be interesting to see if we can add Portugal to that group after their game against Turkey tomorrow.

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                            • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                              Typical Premier League officials taking an age to make a decision

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                              • Re: EUROS thread. Friday 21st June 2024.

                                Yup, VAR has genuinely been fast and unobtrusive in this tournament, until the usual Prem suspects get involved.

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