EUROS FINAL. FT: ENGLAND 1 - 2 SPAIN

[chrisp_1927]

Re: EUROS thread. Monday 24th June 2024.

Sickener for Croatia , I'm guessing 2 points won't even see them through as one of the best 3rd place finishers.

[Michael Morris]

Re: EUROS thread. Monday 24th June 2024.

Exactly, 4 minutes to go, they have a free kick just outside the Italians box and instead of trying to score, they try to waste time.

Attack, attack, attack

Vs Albania, Croatia conceded the latest ever equaliser in Euros History

Vs Italy, Croatia conceded the new latest ever equaliser in Euros history.

[Michael Morris]

Re: EUROS thread. Monday 24th June 2024.

Sickener for Croatia , I'm guessing 2 points won't even see them through as one of the best 3rd place finishers.

It might but it relies on England winning by 3 goals and both Czechia and Georgia losing (from what I can work out)

[Michael Morris]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

TUESDAY 25th JUNE

FT: FRANCE 1 - 1 POLAND

FT: NETHERLANDS 2 - 3 AUSTRIA

FT: DENMARK 0 - 0 SERBIA

FT: ENGLAND 0 - 0 SLOVENIA

[BLUETIT]

Re: EUROS thread. Monday 24th June 2024.

Exactly, 4 minutes to go, they have a free kick just outside the Italians box and instead of trying to score, they try to waste time.

Attack, attack, attack

Vs Albania, Croatia conceded the latest ever equaliser in Euros History

Vs Italy, Croatia conceded the new latest ever equaliser in Euros history.

As I’ve said before in this thread, this tinkering about with substitutes in the final minutes, knackers teams up.

Game would have been finished long time ago.

You can’t tell me, fit, professional athletes can’t last another 10 minutes !

The ones coming on are not up to the pace of the game anyway

Manager/head coaches fault

[BLUETIT]

Re: EUROS thread. Monday 24th June 2024.

If you hadn’t made those substitutions, they wouldn’t have added the time on, you plank

Zlatko Dalic took aim at the “nonsense” decision to add eight minutes of time to Croatia’s match against Italy, having seen Mattia Zaccagni score with the very last action to leave his side all but out of the European Championship

Zaccagni’s goal followed an opener by Luka Modric that seemed to have given Croatia second place. But Italy dramatically leapfrogged them and Dalic, who has taken Croatia to second- and third-placed finishes at the past two World Cup tournaments, knows two points are unlikely to send them to the last 16. He suggested the extended period of added time given*by the refe*ree, Danny *Makkelie, was a symbol of the authorities’ *attitude to a nation that punches above its*weight.
“We are a small country,” he said. “No one gave us so much thought but you can’t have eight minutes, it is a nonsense. I don’t want to cause a fuss about what’s gone on but *Croatia needs to be respected, recognised and acknowledged. Unfortunately we have to stand up for ourselves. I want to thank the lads for their commitment and effort.
“[The outcome] really hurts. It still hurts and will hurt over the coming days and months. It’s not easy, but when we look in general there are some days when it is your day some it is not, occasionally you lose. That is football

[William Treseder]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

It was ball to hand. The modern interpretation is pure bollocks.

Ball hits players arm and it’s by his side - No penalty.
Ball hits players arm and its away from his side - Penalty
Really is simple old fruit .

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

Ball hits players arm and it’s by his side - No penalty.
Ball hits players arm and its away from his side - Penalty
Really is simple old fruit .

That may be the rules these days but I think they are stupid, old fruit.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: EUROS thread. Monday 24th June 2024.

Vs Albania, Croatia conceded the latest ever equaliser in Euros History

Vs Italy, Croatia conceded the new latest ever equaliser in Euros history.

Croatia are over the hill.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

I think you can find 8 minutes in almost every game, and I do agree that Croatia brought a lot of it on themselves with the tactics and late subs. Was 8 mins consistent with how the time that has been added in this tournament so far… probably quite debatable.

They definitely have a gripe when it comes to the end of the game though, Italy scored well within the added time and celebrated for 2 minutes… and then the ref blows up immediately at the restart. That’s an obvious issue that leaves a bad taste in the mouth for me, even if very unlikely to change the end result.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

They definitely have a gripe when it comes to the end of the game though, Italy scored well within the added time and celebrated for 2 minutes… and then the ref blows up immediately at the restart. That’s an obvious issue that leaves a bad taste in the mouth for me, even if very unlikely to change the end result.

Italy scored in the 98th minute. There were only seconds left when the ball hit the back of the net.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

41 seconds… like I said it almost certainly makes no difference to the end result, but it doesn’t help the perception of a referee applying the extra time fairly

[Dembe]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

Netherlands v Austria the pick from the 5pm games.

I would have thought Slovenia could have caused an upset v England as they've looked better than Serbia who England laboured past, but I think with their backs are against the wall England will pick out a result, Gallagher rumoured to be a change for TAA so they may improve in the middle..still got gaps all over the pitch and a striker who drops too deep so not a forgone conclusion.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

41 seconds… like I said it almost certainly makes no difference to the end result, but it doesn’t help the perception of a referee applying the extra time fairly

You raise an interesting point - how long is usually allowed between a team scoring and the other team kicking off before a referee starts adding time on? Should the clock be stopped the second a goal is scored and be started again the moment the other side kicks off?

A ref would obviously be expected to add time on if a goal celebration was over the top, but is it usual to consider the clock as stopped the second as a goal is scored? I'd be surprised if it was.

[LA Bluebird]

Re: EUROS thread. Tuesday 25th June 2024.

You raise an interesting point - how long is usually allowed between a team scoring and the other team kicking off before a referee starts adding time on? Should the clock be stopped the second a goal is scored and be started again the moment the other side kicks off?

A ref would obviously be expected to add time on if a goal celebration was over the top, but is it usual to consider the clock as stopped the second as a goal is scored? I'd be surprised if it was.

It's a fair point and I genuinely have no idea how it's supposed to work.. I would see a celebration and all the associated performance after a goal very different as say the time it takes a player to go over and take a throw in or a corner, but I suspect by the rules you are probably right.

Regardless, with how technology is these days there's really no reason time added on needs to be so imprecise and judgement based. Even if we say a running clock is heretical and too much of a break with tradition, it would be quite simple to add x for every y taken over a dead ball situation, injury, substitution etc... and then round it to the nearest minute. I suspect you'd quite quickly see an end to the worst of the time wasting and the tracking technology is there to easily do it, at least at the higher levels of the game.