Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

Do you not think he probably got asked about Colwill and this was his reply? I doubt he went in there and just started talking randomly about Colwill's faults and strengths

He could have handled it differently rather than engaging on discussing his faults and strengths.

[Tuerto]

Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

Bulut is using Colwill as his own scapegoat

We all know Colwill could be very good. We all know his faults.

The Colwill conversation has been done to death and there was no real need for Bulut to say this when there are some others in the same category.

Deflects off his own mismanagement.

There's no other player in Colwill's category. He is unique. The conversation happens because he has something the others don't, that's generally the case with people who are different or who have skill sets that are rare. For an extreme, people all over the world argue who the best player in history is. It's futile, a non argument really as it's a subjective argument. It still happens though. When footballers show things others don't there is always going to be different levels of expectation and demand. That's the way it is now and always has been. It should be seen as a compliment.

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

He needs to start every game at number 10. He’s way too good for league one. Ask any Bristol Rovers fan, on their match thread they think he’s too good for us!

Do you think he's going to start every game at number 10 for Cardiff City under Erol Bulut?

If not, what solution would propose?

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

He could have handled it differently rather than engaging on discussing his faults and strengths.

Maybe but he hardly said anything was Colwill's fault, just that he needs to make better decisions and that he's a great player but has the potential to be even better. Probably the most inaccurate thing he said was that he's a great player because he's not at the mo

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

There's no other player in Colwill's category. He is unique. The conversation happens because he has something the others don't, that's generally the case with people who are different or who have skill sets that are rare. For an extreme, people all over the world argue who the best player in history is. It's futile, a non argument really as it's a subjective argument. It still happens though. When footballers show things others don't there is always going to be different levels of expectation and demand. That's the way it is now and always has been. It should be seen as a compliment.

He is a player that takes unneccessary risks and can be a liability at Championship level football

It would be naive to automatically start him every game and 'build a team around him'.

. For an extreme, people all over the world argue who the best player in history is.

I think that is a bit extreme. We're talking about someone dropping down a division to develop. How come he hasn't had a offer from a higher club if he was a cut above.

I would suggest his stats say for every unbeliveable Bristol City goal, there's 10 no look backheels to nobody, incomplete high risk low reward passes and incomplete take ons.

Bulut is right he could be better, but I haven't seen anything to suggest he's doing anything about it either.

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

Colwill needs a season in League One playing in his correct position. It’s not going to work out for him here under Bulut.

I still believe Rubin is better than league 1, but I totally agree with your 2nd statement. As long as bulut is manager it’s not going to happen for him. As much as it really pains me to say it, because I would pick him at 10 every week, I believe for his career he should leave the city. Only bulut going - personally I don’t think that will be long - and appointing a progressive manager, can work for Rubin at city. I wonder if Joel moving up the road and away from Cardiff will start to open Rubin’s eyes wider and sooner.

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

Its really, really simple. Never play him out wide ever. First half last night he was out wide and was basically anonymous. Second half he played as a 10 and absolutely bossed the game.

Also, like last night, he needs attackers prepared to make forward runs so hes got more option than a sideways pass, or trying to bang in a screamer from 30 yards.

Ive said it before and Ill say it again, his ceiling is just much higher than anyone else in this squad. He just needs to be utilised in the right way.

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

Colwill played well after 60 minutes yesterday as the game was wide open against a league one team with nothing to lose and starting to push forward. Once again he was nowhere to be seen prior to that

He shoots too often trying to be the hero, I can think of three or four occasions yesterday where he took a shot through crowded bodies that was nowhere near. He lacks composure and the longer his career goes on the more you wonder will it ever come

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

Colwill played well after 60 minutes yesterday as the game was wide open against a league one team with nothing to lose and starting to push forward. Once again he was nowhere to be seen prior to that

He shoots too often trying to be the hero, I can think of three or four occasions yesterday where he took a shot through crowded bodies that was nowhere near. He lacks composure and the longer his career goes on the more you wonder will it ever come

which of our other players would have looked to take the game forward so decisively even against league one opponents? or are we all fans of sideways passing again now?

[TheBirchgrovePub]

Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

which of our other players would have looked to take the game forward so decisively even against league one opponents? or are we all fans of sideways passing again now?

He didn’t do that for 60 minutes though, his first half performance was non existent

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

He is a player that takes unneccessary risks and can be a liability at Championship level football

It would be naive to automatically start him every game and 'build a team around him'.



I think that is a bit extreme. We're talking about someone dropping down a division to develop. How come he hasn't had a offer from a higher club if he was a cut above.

I would suggest his stats say for every unbeliveable Bristol City goal, there's 10 no look backheels to nobody, incomplete high risk low reward passes and incomplete take ons.

Bulut is right he could be better, but I haven't seen anything to suggest he's doing anything about it either.

Mate, I completely agree with you, I have been saying this stuff for a while now. The point I was making is that he has a unique ability unlike the rest, that doesn't mean that I think that he uses it wisely. He looks a bit unfit to me as well. He's definitely bulked up a bit, that could do it

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

which of our other players would have looked to take the game forward so decisively even against league one opponents? or are we all fans of sideways passing again now?

What do other players have to do with anything?

[Rjk]

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He didn’t do that for 60 minutes though, his first half performance was non existent

he still did more than most other players on the pitch while playing at left wing

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

Colwill played very well after 60 minutes yesterday. The pivotal point being that he played right across the line with some freedom.There were some factors involved though that helped the whole team in the change of play. Bristol Rovers had to open up after they conceded the goal and they looked very tired because for all of our unproductive work we were stretching them during the first half which tired them and it showed, and I don't know how many of those players played on Saturday.

Space opened up and Colwill had the opportunity to turn with the ball in Midfield which went on to create the set piece that produced the goal. Before that, and with Rovers not budging, not one of our players attempted to take a player on, take risks, turn the opposition, it started when the space opened up and Rovers started to look tired.

Colwill did well, produced some fine moments in possession, worked the space well, showed for the ball. The concern for me was our inability to break Rovers down, who looked a very poor outfit, while they sat in and kept shape.

The subs coming on took some of the workload off him, he linked well a few times with Reindorf with a few one-twos and were on the same wavelength, Evans and Tanner did pretty well too.

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Re: Erol Bulut's post match comments about Rubin Colwill - thoughts?

It’s harsh to blame Bulut for his lack of progress - every manager he has played under hasn’t seen enough to reward him with a regular starting place.