David James.

[goats]

Re: David James.

Fella and butt are by far worse….

[RichardM]

Re: David James.

I use the phrases, Comrade, Brother of Sister. I like to keep it formal.

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[Tuerto]

Re: David James.

Fella and butt are by far worse….

I like Butt, it's a shortened version of Buttie, which just can't come across as malevolent in any way, and that's the first thing i look for (because in paranoid) Fella is awful, usually used by people who are *****.

[Jamsarnie]

Re: David James.

It always struck me how much more prevalent the use of "mate" was in Cardiff when I first moved there compared to everywhere else in south Wales. It's definitely a Cardiff thing.

I think the first time I heard ‘mate’ in common conversation in Cardiff was around the early nineties and I wouldn’t be surprised if it found its way into the local dialect via English students that study and live there.

No doubt the same tosspots that call Caroline Street ‘Chippy Alley’!

Interloping bastards!

[the other bob wilson]

Re: David James.

I like Butt, it's a shortened version of Buttie, which just can't come across as malevolent in any way, and that's the first thing i look for (because in paranoid) Fella is awful, usually used by people who are *****.

Same here, butt is fine by me. I admit my dislike of mate is not too logical, but I just think call me by my name if it’s someone who knows me and if they don’t, it seems overly familiar.

[Tuerto]

Re: David James.

Same here, butt is fine by me. I admit my dislike of mate is not too logical, but I just think call me by my name if it’s someone who knows me and if they don’t, it seems overly familiar.

Yes, it's a bit unnerving, although it particularly pisses me off if it's said by someone i'm not that keen on in the first place. Amongst the younger generation of Cardiffians the common phrase is 'Bro' i don't mind it, and on estates (where i predominantly work) there is an authenticity about it, it's when i'm in Lisvane, Rhiwbina, Heath etc that it sounds really stupid, especially in a slightly plummy accent.

[Former Labour leader]

Re: David James.

Almost got kicked out of Wetherspoons when the manager called me ' mate' and I told him I wasn't his fecking mate.

[D. Advocaat]

Re: David James.

I like Butt, it's a shortened version of Buttie, which just can't come across as malevolent in any way, and that's the first thing i look for (because in paranoid) Fella is awful, usually used by people who are *****.

Spot on- nothing wrong with 'butt'- it's simply a Valleys equivalent of 'mate' but still with some residual sincereity. Your analysis of people using 'Fella' is is entirely correct.

The worst I've encountered was a new landlord in my local who said 'yes friend?' when I went to the bar. I didn't go back until it had changed hands.

[Tuerto]

Re: David James.

Spot on- nothing wrong with 'butt'- it's simply a Valleys equivalent of 'mate' but still with some residual sincereity. Your analysis of people using 'Fella' is is entirely correct.

The worst I've encountered was a new landlord in my local who said 'yes friend?' when I went to the bar. I didn't go back until it had changed hands.

Oh F uck, 'Yes Friend' that is shocking, i don't think that i could tolerate that either. Fella is used by over confident cretins who fancy themselves and who generally trying to sell you something you don't need.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: David James.

Just gone up in my opinion after he had a bit of a rant on Radio 5 about people who call any male they talk to "mate" - can't explain why and I suppose it says more about me than the person calling me his mate, but it's always made my hackles rise.

I ****ing hate it . If anyone refers to me as mate (if they know me) I tell them I changed my name by deed poll as "mate" was too common.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: David James.

I ****ing hate it . If anyone refers to me as mate (if they know me) I tell them I changed my name by deed poll as "mate" was too common.

It’s strange though, as I mentioned earlier, butt Ive not got a problem with, but I react completely differently to mate (and fella as mentioned by others). This thread shows we all react differently to this sort of thing, but, thinking about it a bit more, butt sounds genuine to me in a way mate doesn’t.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: David James.

To be honest most of you are so far over the hill to be worrying about terms. try to concentrate on walking a bit faster and not taking up a fecking hour chatting about your illnesses at the check out

[Tuerto]

Re: David James.

It’s strange though, as I mentioned earlier, butt Ive not got a problem with, but I react completely differently to mate (and fella as mentioned by others). This thread shows we all react differently to this sort of thing, but, thinking about it a bit more, butt sounds genuine to me in a way mate doesn’t.

I think that with Butt, it's so regional and colloquial, that it comes across as welcoming, in the same way (I suppose) the equivalent in different states of the USA. They would be born from the people, the environment etc, so would have a feel of authenticity. That's my deep thinking for the day.....

[Tuerto]

Re: David James.

To be honest most of you are so far over the hill to be worrying about terms. try to concentrate on walking a bit faster and not taking up a fecking hour chatting about your illnesses at the check out

I bet i'd beat you in a foot race.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: David James.

It’s strange though, as I mentioned earlier, butt Ive not got a problem with, but I react completely differently to mate (and fella as mentioned by others). This thread shows we all react differently to this sort of thing, but, thinking about it a bit more, butt sounds genuine to me in a way mate doesn’t.

I dont mind "butt" its traditional. Fella.... wonder what they are after ..:hehe:

But dont call me "mate" its lazy.