Yes there is a petition

[Crisp White Lines]

Re: Yes there is a petition

From the day he announced his big plan for Cardiff City, I have detested Tan’s attitude toward fans.

He treats us with disdain, and has not a care in the world for what we think of him and his methods.

His methods have only served to dig himself into an enormous hole. One he would, I’m sure, love to get out of. But he is now stuck.

He is pouring money into the hole, but he gets further and further away from the way out.

All of that said - he does not fail the EFL tests for “fit and proper” ownership of a football club. He is simply inept at running a successful club in terms of the results on the pitch.

For that reason I will not sign a petition that is well-meaning, but fundamentally flawed.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Yes there is a petition

From the day he announced his big plan for Cardiff City, I have detested Tan’s attitude toward fans.

He treats us with disdain, and has not a care in the world for what we think of him and his methods.

His methods have only served to dig himself into an enormous hole. One he would, I’m sure, love to get out of. But he is now stuck.

He is pouring money into the hole, but he gets further and further away from the way out.

All of that said - he does not fail the EFL tests for “fit and proper” ownership of a football club. He is simply inept at running a successful club in terms of the results on the pitch.

For that reason I will not sign a petition that is well-meaning, but fundamentally flawed.

Spot on, of all the petitions that could be done, this one makes no sense what’s so ever.

[The Bloop]

Re: Yes there is a petition

Fit and proper tests are about whether or not the owner has any Director sanctions, or to examine the source of the owners money. If either way a problem for Tan, I think we'd know by now.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Yes there is a petition

Fit and proper tests are about whether or not the owner has any Director sanctions, or to examine the source of the owners money. If either way a problem for Tan, I think we'd know by now.

Makes you wonder if the people who signed it know what they signed. Such a shame.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Yes there is a petition

OK is Borely wrong...

Yes, Borley is wrong. 'Be careful what you wish for...' is a mantra of utter cowardice. Either that or it's the mantra of someone who has a vested interest in maintaining the current status quo.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any Cardiff City supporter wishing the club had a better owner than an individual who has treated the fans with disdain for more than a decade and has just led two different clubs to relegation in the same season.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Yes there is a petition

Yes, Borley is wrong. 'Be careful what you wish for...' is a mantra of utter cowardice. Either that or it's the mantra of someone who has a vested interest in maintaining the current status quo.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any Cardiff City supporter wishing the club had a better owner than an individual who has treated the fans with disdain for more than a decade and has just led two different clubs to relegation in the same season.

Flip that do you want to piss off the only person keeping the club afloat and “hope” they sell to the best bidder not the highest bidder.

Maybe Sam will come back ideal as we know he leaves his debt leaves with him.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Flip that do you want to piss off the only person keeping the club afloat and “hope” they sell to the best bidder not the highest bidder.

I sincerely hope Tan is already pissed off.

The notion that this guy is our saviour and the only person who could or would keep this club afloat just goes to show how weak the fanbase has become. It's Stockholm Syndrome in full effect. Be careful what you wish for, blah blah blah.

[Dorcus]

Re: Yes there is a petition

Flip that do you want to piss off the only person keeping the club afloat and “hope” they sell to the best bidder not the highest bidder.

Maybe Sam will come back ideal as we know he leaves his debt leaves with him.

I would be happy if he sold to SpongeBob Square Pants. It's got to the "any port in a storm" situation. Hold your nerve!

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

Re: Yes there is a petition

The Trust and the FAB are under total.control of Tan. You've suggested alternatives rather than criticise, however Tan has totally divided the support against each other......

The Trust is not under total control of Tan at all. And i would wager the FAB is not either. The FAB is a bit constrained by the MOU they signed with the club. Both set ups have very good level-headed people that have fans at heart. If you wish to promote yours or someone else's crusade against VT then go ahead. But do not run other fans' groups down, If you are going to state that the FAB and Trust are under control, then give us some evidence of such.
Spedger

[goats]

Re: Yes there is a petition

Flip that do you want to piss off the only person keeping the club afloat and “hope” they sell to the best bidder not the highest bidder.

Maybe Sam will come back ideal as we know he leaves his debt leaves with him.

Is he keeping the club afloat ? Or is he just consistently making terrible decisions that ends up costing him and our club millions? When did he last hire a decent manager……and then theres the transfer committee….

[jon1959]

Re: Yes there is a petition

Is he keeping the club afloat ? Or is he just consistently making terrible decisions that ends up costing him and our club millions?

He's doing both.... isn't he?

[olderblue]

Re: Yes there is a petition

He's doing both.... isn't he?

Thats the hardest thing to understand, why?
Unless there’s a massive financial incentive for when the Sala case is settled, what keeps him involved?

Not every decision you make in business is going to come off, and this business decision seems to keep costing him money?

Maybe there’s a belief that we can be successful and sold off at a higher price? but the last few years haven’t shown that!

Usually you would want to employ the best people you can afford to drive a business forward!

I doubt they’ll be a big launch for Tans guide in how to run a successful football club, if it ever appears

Although the one chapter on go to employ a successful manager would be an interesting read!

Let’s hope that this time he gets it right

[goats]

Re: Yes there is a petition

Thats the hardest thing to understand, why?
Unless there’s a massive financial incentive for when the Sala case is settled, what keeps him involved?

Not every decision you make in business is going to come off, and this business decision seems to keep costing him money?

Maybe there’s a belief that we can be successful and sold off at a higher price? but the last few years haven’t shown that!

Usually you would want to employ the best people you can afford to drive a business forward!

I doubt they’ll be a big launch for Tans guide in how to run a successful football club, if it ever appears

Although the one chapter on go to employ a successful manager would be an interesting read!

Let’s hope that this time he gets it right

There can’t be many clubs that have been managed so badly by an owner? We usually come top of that table

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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He's doing both.... isn't he?

Keeping us afloat while slowly sinking perhaps.

[NinianKnight]

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Is he keeping the club afloat ?

In 15 years of ownership we have never been in a winding up petition, which we seemed to be every 5 minutes under the Riddler and PMG. Yes he is keeping the club afloat even if he is making loads of mistakes.