Yes there is a petition

[2b2bdoo]

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He's doing both.... isn't he?

I would say so

[NinianKnight]

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Yes, Borley is wrong. 'Be careful what you wish for...' is a mantra of utter cowardice. Either that or it's the mantra of someone who has a vested interest in maintaining the current status quo.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any Cardiff City supporter wishing the club had a better owner than an individual who has treated the fans with disdain for more than a decade and has just led two different clubs to relegation in the same season.

Is that fact or opinion? I agree if you want another owner because you don't like the current one then you are perfectly entitled to hold that opinion. But it is not fact that things will get better and could make a bad position worse. Borley's opinion is that things could get worse. Would you be happy if he sold out to an American investment firm or hedge fund? I would be terrified if that happened

[NinianKnight]

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Keeping us afloat while slowly sinking perhaps.

Probably the best description so far

[fugsyphil]

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Keeping us afloat while slowly sinking perhaps.

Like a giant turd in the local swimming baths

[llan bluebird]

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Is that fact or opinion? I agree if you want another owner because you don't like the current one then you are perfectly entitled to hold that opinion. But it is not fact that things will get better and could make a bad position worse. Borley's opinion is that things could get worse. Would you be happy if he sold out to an American investment firm or hedge fund? I would be terrified if that happened

Half the Premier League is owned by American investment vehicles of one shape or another.

A third of all English football is owned by Americans.

But hey, Vinny is doing a great job.

[the other bob wilson]

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Is that fact or opinion? I agree if you want another owner because you don't like the current one then you are perfectly entitled to hold that opinion. But it is not fact that things will get better and could make a bad position worse. Borley's opinion is that things could get worse. Would you be happy if he sold out to an American investment firm or hedge fund? I would be terrified if that happened

Remember how we all felt back in 2010 when we learned there was something to those rumours linking us with a billionaire? It felt like the sky was the limit and, after all of the Hammam bluster and the Ridsdale flying by the seat of our pants, we were set for a time to match or even better anything in our history. Fifteen years later, the same man is in charge and now the word is “things could get worse” - where did it all go wrong?

[2b2bdoo]

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Remember how we all felt back in 2010 when we learned there was something to those rumours linking us with a billionaire? It felt like the sky was the limit and, after all of the Hammam bluster and the Ridsdale flying by the seat of our pants, we were set for a time to match or even better anything in our history. Fifteen years later, the same man is in charge and now the word is “things could get worse” - where did it all go wrong?

Not how I remember it, we had several winding up order, HMRC plus several others. My memory is just wanting a club.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Is that fact or opinion?

It it a fact that there is absolutely nothing wrong with any Cardiff City supporter wishing the club had a better owner than an individual who has treated the fans with disdain for more than a decade and has just led two different clubs to relegation in the same season.

[the other bob wilson]

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Not how I remember it, we had several winding up order, HMRC plus several others. My memory is just wanting a club.

Course you did!

[Canton Kev]

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There can’t be many clubs that have been managed so badly by an owner? We usually come top of that table

In the 15 years Tan has been here, I’d imagine the fans of Bolton, Derby, Bury, Blackburn, Wigan, Blackpool, Reading, Wednesday, Portsmouth, Notts County and probably a few more would’ve at some point or another bitten your hand off it you’d offered them Tan.

I would rather Tan sold up. I absolutely don’t wish him to sell up to the first available buyer.

[The Lone Gunman]

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In the 15 years Tan has been here, I’d imagine the fans of Bolton, Derby, Bury, Blackburn, Wigan, Blackpool, Reading, Wednesday, Portsmouth, Notts County and probably a few more would’ve at some point or another bitten your hand off it you’d offered them Tan.

And yet four of those clubs will start 2025/26 in the division above us.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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In the 15 years Tan has been here, I’d imagine the fans of Bolton, Derby, Bury, Blackburn, Wigan, Blackpool, Reading, Wednesday, Portsmouth, Notts County and probably a few more would’ve at some point or another bitten your hand off it you’d offered them Tan.

Would that be the case if they knew a rebrand would happen?

[llan bluebird]

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I bet Wrexham, Brum, Burnley, Leeds and Charlton are glad they have different owners

[BLUEAWAY TOO]

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I read the petition statement with interest.
If somebody makes a claim I like to believe it’s balanced.
I am not saying that all is right. Far from it.
But for balance, I have supported City for 62 years, remember the good days under Scoular, all the bad seasons that we had, particularly in the lower leagues, remember the nearly moments under Dave Jones and seeing CITY in the top league for two seasons, 2 from 62+,
both under the ownership of Tan.
Yes change is necessarily, but the right change.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Remember how we all felt back in 2010 when we learned there was something to those rumours linking us with a billionaire? It felt like the sky was the limit and, after all of the Hammam bluster and the Ridsdale flying by the seat of our pants, we were set for a time to match or even better anything in our history. Fifteen years later, the same man is in charge and now the word is “things could get worse” - where did it all go wrong?

it's almost heresy nowadays to say anything good about the Hammam/Ridsdale era but by heck, they were good, fun, exciting times. The key thing for me that the current owner and his chums just don't grasp is that a football club and its supporters need feel a 'buzz' about the place, things happening, directors keeping themselves in the media. With our distant [in all senses] owner it just feels a bit cold and flat. I've always had a pragmatic stance on Tan, but now I'd wish he'd go. whatever the circumstances, even administration..