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  • #16
    Re: Sala litigation latest

    Originally posted by pomeroy View Post
    Thanks for that.
    However if it is ruled that the transfer of Sala was conducted by at least one if not more unlicensed agents would not the transfer in itself be deemed null and void and thus the various governing bodies that imposed sanctions on CCFC without being aware of the full facts could be liable for consequential losses suffered by CCFC ?
    No , because they only tested and ruled on whether or not the transfer was completed contractually and they ruled it was.

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by Ninian1962 View Post
      No , because they only tested and ruled on whether or not the transfer was completed contractually and they ruled it was.
      But THEIR ruling could it not be deemed to be deficient in the light of the true facts of the case being uncovered?

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by pomeroy View Post
        But THEIR ruling could it not be deemed to be deficient in the light of the true facts of the case being uncovered?
        Still no.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
          Still no.
          Why no? You have to give a reason. Is this not a reasonable case to be brought to the CAS?. The governing bodies all determined against CCFC before being made aware of the full facts of this unique case. The EFL, EUFA and FIFA have to be accountable to a higher authority if it is considered that their judgements have been flawed. You can rest assure that if CCFC are successful in their action against FC Nantes further litigation could follow especially having regard to the character of VT.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by pomeroy View Post
            Why no? You have to give a reason. Is this not a reasonable case to be brought to the CAS?. The governing bodies all determined against CCFC before being made aware of the full facts of this unique case. The EFL, EUFA and FIFA have to be accountable to a higher authority if it is considered that their judgements have been flawed. You can rest assure that if CCFC are successful in their action against FC Nantes further litigation could follow especially having regard to the character of VT.
            Still no.

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            • #21
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              The sooner we lose this case and it's all over the better. £104m is a disgrace.

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              • #22
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                There is a small possibility that Nantes may be made to reimburse CCFC the price they paid for Sala.
                However, in my opinion it is extremely unlikely that they will award any damages for loss of earnings arising from relegation, caused by Sala's death. Clubs have tried to win costs like this before, and have always failed - you cannot blame your entire season's results on the loss of one player, whoever he is.

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by tforturton View Post
                  There is a small possibility that Nantes may be made to reimburse CCFC the price they paid for Sala.
                  However, in my opinion it is extremely unlikely that they will award any damages for loss of earnings arising from relegation, caused by Sala's death. Clubs have tried to win costs like this before, and have always failed - you cannot blame your entire season's results on the loss of one player, whoever he is.
                  You can blame it on a manager though and our manager at the time, if the whole story emerged, would (allegedly) be up to his neck in the whole sad affair.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
                    The sooner we lose this case and it's all over the better. £104m is a disgrace.
                    So you completely side with FC Nantes, a club already charged with criminal offences by the French Courts, a club using a bunch of crooks also charged by the French Courts, to try and stitch up the club I have supported since 1953. The disgrace lies plainly in the hands of FC Nantes, a club you will remember that refused to contribute anything to the fund set up for the Sala family.

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                    • #25
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                      “you cannot blame your entire season's results on the loss of one player, whoever he is”


                      The Toshack brigade still do !

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                        Still no.
                        Your erudition would be best served on the other board.

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by pomeroy View Post
                          So you completely side with FC Nantes, a club already charged with criminal offences by the French Courts, a club using a bunch of crooks also charged by the French Courts, to try and stitch up the club I have supported since 1953. The disgrace lies plainly in the hands of FC Nantes, a club you will remember that refused to contribute anything to the fund set up for the Sala family.
                          What are your views on the fact that Cardiff City's manager at the time, along with various other senior club officials, were not only happy to deal with Willie McKay but even went so far as to employ two of his sons?

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by pomeroy View Post
                            Your erudition would be best served on the other board.
                            Your suggestion that Tan and Co should sue FIFA, UEFA and the EFL is more than a little daft.

                            Are you aware that Cardiff City FC reached a settlement with their insurers in 2023 in respect of the Emiliano Sala transfer?

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                              What are your views on the fact that Cardiff City's manager at the time, along with various other senior club officials, were not only happy to deal with Willie McKay but even went so far as to employ two of his sons?
                              What was Warnock to say? I am sorry FC Nantes but I cannot deal with Willie McKay, your appointed representative, because we believe he is not qualified even though EUFA and FIFA and the EFL are happy for the negotiations to carry on and will eventually confirm, as it turned out , that the transfer was completed validly.
                              The employment of his two sons is a red herring. One of them turned out to be a decent player.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Sala litigation latest

                                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                                Your suggestion that Tan and Co should sue FIFA, UEFA and the EFL is more than a little daft.

                                Are you aware that Cardiff City FC reached a settlement with their insurers in 2023 in respect of the Emiliano Sala transfer?
                                The settlement which the Club reached with its insurers was a result of the insurers’ negligence. This action was taken after the various governing bodies declared that Sala was a Cardiff City player. If it transpires that FC Nantes did indeed employ an unqualified agent, along apparently with two others, to complete the transfer could it not be construed as null and void and perhaps illegal?. In that case the punitive sanctions imposed on the club by the various governing bodies having jumped the gun as it were could also be declared illegal. In this case there could have been consequential losses suffered by the club.
                                Let’s say the tragic Sala transfer had been played out at let’s say Man City with the money involved say £100m. do you not think that FIFA would be shaking in its boots at the moment?

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