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  • #16
    Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

    My original post wasn’t about optimism or pessimism- it was about arrogance.

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    • #17
      Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

      Originally posted by BLUEAWAY TOO View Post
      My original post wasnÂ’t about optimism or pessimism- it was about arrogance.
      Saying (out loud) that we will get promoted isn't arrogant, not in the slightest. It's the wrong word for a start.

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      • #18
        Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

        Originally posted by BLUEAWAY TOO View Post
        My original post wasn’t about optimism or pessimism- it was about arrogance.
        The best odds you can get on Cardiff being promoted are 1/8, with most major bookmakers its 1/25

        Would suggest it isn't arrogance just the general view

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        • #19
          Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

          Originally posted by City123 View Post
          The best odds you can get on Cardiff being promoted are 1/8, with most major bookmakers its 1/25

          Would suggest it isn't arrogance just the general view
          You're a Cardiff fan, knows your place.

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          • #20
            Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

            First time in my lifetime I think weÂ’re a certain for promotion. Not as confident about finishing as champions though.

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            • #21
              Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

              Originally posted by BLUEAWAY TOO View Post
              My original post wasn’t about optimism or pessimism - it was about arrogance.
              My feelings about Cardiff City Football Club changed significantly in 2012. Since then, results haven’t had any great effect on me and I believe this emotional detachment means I often view the abilities and performances of the team, its players and its managers a good deal more objectively than many of the supporters who are fully-engaged with the club.

              Therefore, I don’t think what I’ve been saying for months is in any way arrogant. I’ve simply been saying what I’ve been seeing since the 2025/26 campaign began and I believe most neutrals would be thinking along similar lines.

              All the evidence so far has indicated that Cardiff City are the best side in League One this season and therefore should win the league with something to spare. That doesn’t mean to say I think this is a great team by any stretch of the imagination and I don’t. I just believe our squad has significantly more quality and depth than any other in League One this time around.

              BBM quickly generated an atmosphere of confidence and belief around the CCS and the players have responded accordingly. His team has almost always looked better than the opposition, sometimes comfortably and sometimes marginally.

              Often, a good ten or fifteen minute spell during a game is enough for City to take the points because, as a rule, the sides we’re playing are so limited by comparison. The quality of the finishing at this level is especially poor, so the fact that our defence often gives up chances doesn’t matter as much as perhaps it should.

              City haven’t been a streaky side so far this season. There haven’t been any especially good or bad runs of results or form. Despite BBM’s habit of rotating the players so regularly, the team has generally been consistent. The Bluebirds rarely blow sides away. Indeed, 12 of our 17 league victories have been by a single goal, and that includes all of our last 7 wins. But by the same token, City are very rarely outplayed. We’ve only been beaten five times and two of those games should probably have ended in draws.

              I have no doubt there will be more draws and a couple more defeats before the end of the season. A home draw is long overdue and, in my opinion, the side isn’t anywhere near good enough to go another 20 games without losing again. There will be off days. But overall, I firmly believe City have more than enough to emerge as champions by a comfortable margin.

              Of course, this is football and stranger things have happened than a team like ours imploding. However, Cardiff City are currently 3/10 to win the league and 1/25 to be promoted, and I reckon those odds are about right.

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              • #22
                Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                My feelings about Cardiff City Football Club changed significantly in 2012. Since then, results havenÂ’t had any great effect on me and I believe this emotional detachment means I often view the abilities and performances of the team, its players and its managers a good deal more objectively than many of the supporters who are fully-engaged with the club.
                I think the majority of people have this ability beyond the age of 21 compared to social media and MB bed wetters.

                Would you say you are a neutral who just likes watching some live football with some friends or would you still consider yourself a Cardiff fan? Always find your posts curious as you don't seem to enjoy going but you must do to keep going I'd imagine

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                • #23
                  Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                  As you get older I don't believe you worry as much about your teams results as when you're younger.
                  I used to be in a foul mood years ago when we lost especially at home.
                  Winning still brings joy mind.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                    Originally posted by Chilled of Llanishen View Post
                    As you get older I don't believe you worry as much about your teams results as when you're younger.
                    I used to be in a foul mood years ago when we lost especially at home.
                    Winning still brings joy mind.
                    As an old codger I still get that nervousness on matchday that I got as a kid. The anticipation and excitement is still there but I am more able to deal with disappointing results.

                    When liquidation of the club was a distinct possibility in the Ridsdale era I got myself into a right tizz and since then I vowed to myself never to get too high when we win or too low when we lose. It's certainly worked for me.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                      Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
                      As an old codger I still get that nervousness on matchday that I got as a kid. The anticipation and excitement is still there but I am more able to deal with disappointing results.

                      When liquidation of the club was a distinct possibility in the Ridsdale era I got myself into a right tizz and since then I vowed to myself never to get too high when we win or too low when we lose. It's certainly worked for me.
                      I'm an old codger as well and I get more nervous than ever, probably because as I live away from Cardiff and I can only get to CC Stadium occasionally. I can feel my blood pressure rising on match days. Convinced the Bluebirds will give me a heart attack one day.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                        Originally posted by TheBirchgrovePub View Post
                        I think the majority of people have this ability beyond the age of 21 compared to social media and MB bed wetters.

                        Would you say you are a neutral who just likes watching some live football with some friends or would you still consider yourself a Cardiff fan? Always find your posts curious as you don't seem to enjoy going but you must do to keep going I'd imagine
                        You’re right that fans tend to be a lot more realistic and level-headed away from social media, but football supporters are very one-eyed as a rule and, in my experience, emotion tends to get the better of a fair percentage of people when they’re attempting to assess their own team. I firmly believe becoming more detached has led to a bit more perspective.

                        My first year back as a season ticket holder was 2022/23 and I definitely felt like a neutral for the first two years. However, I did find myself getting really irritated during some of the more pathetic, passive performances last season and I’ve been feeling a lot more involved and enthusiastic this season. The team playing some genuinely decent football and winning more often has obviously helped, but I think it’s more down to the fact that I actually like the manager and several of the current players. I’ve felt much more like a supporter than an observer in recent months.

                        It’s definitely much more about the social side of things for me these days, though. I have no qualms about missing the odd home game, which is something that never used to happen, but regardless of any circumstances I’ve always retained a strong interest in the club, particularly as so many friends and family members are City supporters.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                          YouÂ’re right that fans tend to be a lot more realistic and level-headed away from social media, but football supporters are very one-eyed as a rule and, in my experience, emotion tends to get the better of a fair percentage of people when theyÂ’re attempting to assess their own team. I firmly believe becoming more detached has led to a bit more perspective.

                          My first year back as a season ticket holder was 2022/23 and I definitely felt like a neutral for the first two years. However, I did find myself getting really irritated during some of the more pathetic, passive performances last season and IÂ’ve been feeling a lot more involved and enthusiastic this season. The team playing some genuinely decent football and winning more often has obviously helped, but I think itÂ’s more down to the fact that I actually like the manager and several of the current players. IÂ’ve felt much more like a supporter than an observer in recent months.

                          ItÂ’s definitely much more about the social side of things for me these days, though. I have no qualms about missing the odd home game, which is something that never used to happen, but regardless of any circumstances IÂ’ve always retained a strong interest in the club, particularly as so many friends and family members are City supporters.
                          Glad this season has got you feeling more like a supporter, it certainly appears everyone is a bit more invested this season which is great and hopefully the feel good factor continues into next season.

                          ItÂ’s always talked about as a small minority that walked away completely but I often wonder of the knock on effect of other supporters who may not have been as die hard initially but drifted away in that period and have never returned. I bet thereÂ’s quite a few in that category

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                          • #28
                            Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                            You’re right that fans tend to be a lot more realistic and level-headed away from social media, but football supporters are very one-eyed as a rule and, in my experience, emotion tends to get the better of a fair percentage of people when they’re attempting to assess their own team. I firmly believe becoming more detached has led to a bit more perspective.

                            My first year back as a season ticket holder was 2022/23 and I definitely felt like a neutral for the first two years. However, I did find myself getting really irritated during some of the more pathetic, passive performances last season and I’ve been feeling a lot more involved and enthusiastic this season. The team playing some genuinely decent football and winning more often has obviously helped, but I think it’s more down to the fact that I actually like the manager and several of the current players. I’ve felt much more like a supporter than an observer in recent months.

                            It’s definitely much more about the social side of things for me these days, though. I have no qualms about missing the odd home game, which is something that never used to happen, but regardless of any circumstances I’ve always retained a strong interest in the club, particularly as so many friends and family members are City supporters.
                            Seeing local lads coming good is bound to have helped us all, and obviously watching a Manager that does know what he is doing of course.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                              Originally posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
                              Seeing local lads coming good is bound to have helped us all, and obviously watching a Manager that does know what he is doing of course.
                              You're right on that one, although when you sort of fall out of love with the club it's very difficult to get it back. I'm not what i used to be concerning City, results don't bother me that much anymore. I want us to win, but a loss is shrugged off these days. In years gone by a poor result could screw up my Saturday or Tuesday. I used to make sure that i could fo;;ow the game wherever i was, going out of my way to hear the game, changing plans etc, pissing people off along the way. None of that anymore. It's been coming for a long time with me though, and not just City, football in general doesn't do it for me anymore. I've found other interests that are better for me and more productive.:thumbup:

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                              • #30
                                Re: Hope, confidence, arrogance?

                                Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                                You’re right that fans tend to be a lot more realistic and level-headed away from social media, but football supporters are very one-eyed as a rule and, in my experience, emotion tends to get the better of a fair percentage of people when they’re attempting to assess their own team. I firmly believe becoming more detached has led to a bit more perspective.

                                My first year back as a season ticket holder was 2022/23 and I definitely felt like a neutral for the first two years. However, I did find myself getting really irritated during some of the more pathetic, passive performances last season and I’ve been feeling a lot more involved and enthusiastic this season. The team playing some genuinely decent football and winning more often has obviously helped, but I think it’s more down to the fact that I actually like the manager and several of the current players. I’ve felt much more like a supporter than an observer in recent months.

                                It’s definitely much more about the social side of things for me these days, though. I have no qualms about missing the odd home game, which is something that never used to happen, but regardless of any circumstances I’ve always retained a strong interest in the club, particularly as so many friends and family members are City supporters.
                                Do you still harbour the same vitriol for Tan?
                                Reading this post, I’d have thought you should be thanking him for breaking the all consuming bond you had with the club, allowing you to now view things more sensibly from a distance.

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