Ollie Robinson/Twitter

[life on mars]

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Robinson has been suspended and released from the squad for the 2nd Test.

Incredible

[blue matt]

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Incredible

though expected made a mistake, apologised for it, would have been end of the story years ago, but not these days for a certain section of society slowly but surely they are winning

[Tuerto]

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though expected made a mistake, apologised for it, would have been end of the story years ago, but not these days for a certain section of society slowly but surely they are winning

Nonsense. He was 18 years old and he said some vile things in the public domain. He's representing his country and is now very high profile. What do you expect the ECB should do, just say that he was a daft young adult and that it's all ok now? He surely has to answer to what he said, explain himself and show that he doesn't think like that anymore. If someone of the same age in employment, higher education etc used those words, then they would be up the road, and rightly so. This bloke isn't being singled out, he's being treated the same way any of us would in our job if we used language like that.

I hope that it's all sorted out, that he understands what he did, explains himself and resumes his career, nobody should have to pay forever, that's ridiculous and a huge waste, nobody wins in my opinion. Stop apologising for piss poor behaviour, or maybe behaviour that doesn't particularly bother you.

[the other bob wilson]

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Nonsense. He was 18 years old and he said some vile things in the public domain. He's representing his country and is now very high profile. What do you expect the ECB should do, just say that he was a daft young adult and that it's all ok now? He surely has to answer to what he said, explain himself and show that he doesn't think like that anymore. If someone of the same age in employment, higher education etc used those words, then they would be up the road, and rightly so. This bloke isn't being singled out, he's being treated the same way any of us would in our job if we used language like that.

I hope that it's all sorted out, that he understands what he did, explains himself and resumes his career, nobody should have to pay forever, that's ridiculous and a huge waste, nobody wins in my opinion. Stop apologising for piss poor behaviour, or maybe behaviour that doesn't particularly bother you.

During the really bad weeks and months of lockdown we had "celebrities" queuing up to apologise for breaking the rules. Occasionally they'd do it more than once - Rita Ora for example - merely apologising for breaking rules or making offensive comments is not always enough.

These days, people who feel it is inexcusable to make the sort of comments Ollie Robinson did are made out to be the villains of the piece because they are considered "woke" - what sort of bizzaro world are we living in where it's the people who find inexcusable comments offensive who are put on the defensive?

Ollie Robinson is an impressive cricketer and I admire the way he has reacted on the pitch under pressure since the news of the tweets he made broke. He will be back for England I'm sure, but, to use the catchall term, he has been guilty of bringing the game into disrepute and should be punished - offering an apology eight or nine years after the event only after what he did has come to light is no defence and if people just thought about that, rather than rushing to make political points , they would see things more clearly,

[the other bob wilson]

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Nonsense. He was 18 years old and he said some vile things in the public domain. He's representing his country and is now very high profile. What do you expect the ECB should do, just say that he was a daft young adult and that it's all ok now? He surely has to answer to what he said, explain himself and show that he doesn't think like that anymore. If someone of the same age in employment, higher education etc used those words, then they would be up the road, and rightly so. This bloke isn't being singled out, he's being treated the same way any of us would in our job if we used language like that.

I hope that it's all sorted out, that he understands what he did, explains himself and resumes his career, nobody should have to pay forever, that's ridiculous and a huge waste, nobody wins in my opinion. Stop apologising for piss poor behaviour, or maybe behaviour that doesn't particularly bother you.

Apologies, double post.

[Tuerto]

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During the really bad weeks and months of lockdown we had "celebrities" queuing up to apologise for breaking the rules. Occasionally they'd do it more than once - Rita Ora for example - merely apologising for breaking rules or making offensive comments is not always enough.

These days, people who feel it is inexcusable to make the sort of comments Ollie Robinson did are made out to be the villains of the piece because they are considered "woke" - what sort of bizzaro world are we living in where it's the people who find inexcusable comments offensive who are put on the defensive?

Ollie Robinson is an impressive cricketer and I admire the way he has reacted on the pitch under pressure since the news of the tweets he made broke. He will be back for England I'm sure, but, to use the catchall term, he has been guilty of bringing the game into disrepute and should be punished - offering an apology eight or nine years after the event only after what he did has come to light is no defence and if people just thought about that, rather than rushing to make political points , they would see things more clearly,

The thing is, it's all white people who think it's ok for an apology like the one he has given, a bit like apologising to your sister 20 years on, because it was really you who broke her record player! Not a chance. The problem is that plain old sorry just aint enough. He needs to show that he isn't a racist, he has to do something physical, get involved etc, that's the same for all of us. No doubt i'll have the usual wankers on my case, trotting out the usual cliched, apologist crap.

[Tuerto]

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To add... Imagine if this had been a young British Pakistani playing for England, And what came to light was him encouraging Terrorism, Hatred towards jews etc. on the old Twitter. I wonder how that would go down? Ahh, it's nothing, he was a kid' The P.C brigade are winning...

[Former Labour leader]

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I've tried to cast my mind back to when I was 18. Quite difficult I must say!
I certainly said and did some strange things at that age, but did I ever abuse anyone, racially, or in other ways? I think not. I doubt that if Twitter had been about that i would have said the same things as Robinson either.
No, i dont think what he said was acceptable and to me is a reflection of a mindset which he probably still holds today.
It is disappointing that reasonable posters on here cannot see what he says is unacceptable and goes a long way to explaining the unpleasant country we have become.
Robinson will be reinstated eventually, as he should but like another poster has said, he needs to show in a tangible manner that his attitude has changed.

[lardy]

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One of his tweets was "hanging like Gary Speed", sent a few months after the suicide.

I wonder what the reaction on here would have been at the time had it been shared when he was a nobody.

[mazadona10]

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Every 18-19 year old boy has done something they wouldn't do or say now. It's about growing up. I think having comments shown to the nation is humiliating and punishment enough.

I don't really see what holding him to account now about views he no longer relates to. There needs to be some sort of timescale as these things are going to keep presenting themselves over and over again. If he had a conviction for them, would have been spent now, he didn't move on.

[surge]

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Boris Johnson, who has not apologised for any of his comments*, has said a suspension of the player is going too far. I wonder if he recognises conflict of interest?

A suspension is the right thing to do and in this case it appears that period can be completed very, very quickly. If he's grown up/learnt from mistakes he won't mind sitting out of cricket for a week or two and making a further apology before things move on.

*His recent apology was for offence taken rather than for wanting to make anti-islam comments.

[Llandaff Blue]

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To add... Imagine if this had been a young British Pakistani playing for England, And what came to light was him encouraging Terrorism, Hatred towards jews etc. on the old Twitter. I wonder how that would go down? Ahh, it's nothing, he was a kid' The P.C brigade are winning...

If anyone was found to be encouraging terrorism I'd hope they'd get a knock from the police.

[the other bob wilson]

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If anyone was found to be encouraging terrorism I'd hope they'd get a knock from the police.

Nice swerve.

[Llandaff Blue]

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Nice swerve.

His comment is beyond stupid, of course the reaction would be different in that scenario.

[Tuerto]

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His comment is beyond stupid, of course the reaction would be different in that scenario.

Racism is a crime as well. My point may have been over the top, but if it was a British Muslim spouting hate, who just so happened to play for England, then you know as well as I do that the reaction on here and with the public and media in general, would he the polar opposite.