Ollie Robinson/Twitter

[willo1927]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

The thing is, it's all white people who think it's ok for an apology like the one he has given, a bit like apologising to your sister 20 years on, because it was really you who broke her record player! Not a chance. The problem is that plain old sorry just aint enough. He needs to show that he isn't a racist, he has to do something physical, get involved etc, that's the same for all of us. No doubt i'll have the usual wankers on my case, trotting out the usual cliched, apologist crap.

No racist tweets in 9 years and you want him to prove he isn't a racist.
He was a nieve teenager and has apologised already in public.
You seem to want him publicly flogged.
If he tweeted this last week then you would have a point but it was a third of his lifetime ago ffs

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

No racist tweets in 9 years and you want him to prove he isn't a racist.
He was a nieve teenager and has apologised already in public.
You seem to want him publicly flogged.
If he tweeted this last week then you would have a point but it was a third of his lifetime ago ffs

You make it sound like racism/sexism/homophobia is something that teenagers have for a while then get over like acne! I don't think there would be figures out there to prove this either way, but my view is that in the majority of cases, if you hold racist views at eighteen, the likelihood is that you will at fifty - in fact, you may well be a worse racist.

It's being reported by the BBC that an offensive historical tweet has been found that was posted by a second England squad member. Furthermore, a player who could well replace Robinson in the team on Thursday, Craig Overton, has form in this area as well - this is taken from his Wikipedia entry;-

"During a County Championship match against Sussex in September 2015, Overton racially abused Pakistani batsman Ashar Zaidi whilst bowling. He received a two match ban as a result of the incident."

While you could argue as to which offence is the more serious, I'd say what happened with Overton sets a precedent and if Robinson received the same two game ban that should be an end to the matter unless there is a repeat of such behaviour from him.

Although I've not heard about examples of it happening in anywhere else but England, it seems that racial booing is becoming an issue again in football in the UK with the situation not being helped by the inaction of Johnson who has deemed the ECB's punishment of Robinson to be "over the top" and refused to condemn these who booed the taking of the knee before England's game with Romania on Sunday. The fact that man has come down on that side of the argument is all of the confirmation you need that the cricket authorities were right to take the action they have against Robinson.

[Tuerto]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

No racist tweets in 9 years and you want him to prove he isn't a racist.
He was a nieve teenager and has apologised already in public.
You seem to want him publicly flogged.
If he tweeted this last week then you would have a point but it was a third of his lifetime ago ffs

Yeah, I want him flogged, and in front of a baying crowd of mad lefties, LGBT activists, Marxists and those who are offended on behalf of others..... Or, he could properly acknowledge what he has said, explain himself and do something positive to rectify the situation. Then resume his cricket career, or continue it while he learns that what he said was so very wrong.

This thread is quite interesting in the fact that some people seem to think that what this bloke said was pretty standard fare for a young adult. Here's news, it isn't. Maybe some people on here are seeing this cricketer through their own eyes, in their form so to speak. Which would make sense considering the replies. If so, then I hope that they've learnt from the past, hopefully the cricketer will do the same.

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

Should teenagers be treated different because they're young and naive?

[Tuerto]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

Should teenagers be treated different because they're young and naive?

What excuse is there for fully fledged adults?

[J R Hartley]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

The CCMB kangaroo court had delivered its verdict - Life with no chance of parole. Take him away.

[surge]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

Yeah, I want him flogged, and in front of a baying crowd of mad lefties, LGBT activists, Marxists and those who are offended on behalf of others..... Or, he could properly acknowledge what he has said, explain himself and do something positive to rectify the situation. Then resume his cricket career, or continue it while he learns that what he said was so very wrong.

This thread is quite interesting in the fact that some people seem to think that what this bloke said was pretty standard fare for a young adult. Here's news, it isn't. Maybe some people on here are seeing this cricketer through their own eyes, in their form so to speak. Which would make sense considering the replies. If so, then I hope that they've learnt from the past, hopefully the cricketer will do the same.

A switch from past tense to present tense there.

If we accept that no one is born a racist and it's learnt behaviour then there were definitely a higher number of people ready to teach someone racist jokes 10 years ago than there were teaching that same person to be anti-racist, and the further back you go that difference only grows. The behaviour was never right but for me the focus should be more on those in positions of power currently saying he's never done anything wrong and/or nothing should be done (setting themselves up as current teachers of this behaviour) who are, imo, acting worse than the cricketer who is admitting fault and error.

Based on his age at the time, the lack of instance since, his admission of fault and the need to take some action I would think a short suspension without further action is the right move to make. Of course if they sit down with him and he admits he only apologised to shorten the punishment and secretly still holds those views then more needs to be done.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

The CCMB kangaroo court had delivered its verdict - Life with no chance of parole. Take him away.

The way I read the thread was that those on the side of the argument that some punishment was appropriate thought the EWCB punishment was appropriate. What did you see that suggested he was being hammered by those that responded?

[willo1927]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

Yeah, I want him flogged, and in front of a baying crowd of mad lefties, LGBT activists, Marxists and those who are offended on behalf of others..... Or, he could properly acknowledge what he has said, explain himself and do something positive to rectify the situation. Then resume his cricket career, or continue it while he learns that what he said was so very wrong.

This thread is quite interesting in the fact that some people seem to think that what this bloke said was pretty standard fare for a young adult. Here's news, it isn't. Maybe some people on here are seeing this cricketer through their own eyes, in their form so to speak. Which would make sense considering the replies. If so, then I hope that they've learnt from the past, hopefully the cricketer will do the same.

You are an arsehole fair play
According to you nobody can change as they mature
Nobody is allowed to make a mistake
You must have been a right mummies boy as a teenager and never did anything you now regret.
Does the fact that they had to go back 9 years to find these tweets not show that he changed from being immature into a man who now knows that what he did was wrong?

[Tuerto]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

You are an arsehole fair play
According to you nobody can change as they mature
Nobody is allowed to make a mistake
You must have been a right mummies boy as a teenager and never did anything you now regret.
Does the fact that they had to go back 9 years to find these tweets not show that he changed from being immature into a man who now knows that what he did was wrong?

Why did you bother?

[life on mars]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

I love the fact the purest pass judgment as they age , god most 18 year olds ( in particular football fans ) utter total garbage at that age they say offensive things to mainly garner attention and show off to others , to think this crass oubursts will now haunt this lad is equally worrying as the offence itself , its especially sad as he's just attained the proudest moment in his cricket life .

God rest the thought police.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

I love the fact the purest pass judgment as they age , god most 18 year olds ( in particular football fans ) utter total garbage at that age they say offensive things to mainly garner attention and show off to others , to think this crass oubursts will now haunt this lad is equally worrying as the offence itself , its especially sad as he's just attained the proudest moment in his cricket life .

God rest the thought police.

Is it me or are the arguments of the racism apologists getting more and more feeble as this thread proceeds?

[lardy]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

Is it me or are the arguments of the racism apologists getting more and more feeble as this thread proceeds?

Well lifeonmars has said far far worse on here than these tweets.

Such as natural born UK citizens are white, underage girls groomed for sex knew what they were getting into, and a few other unsavoury morsels, and I'm sure he's well past the age of 18, so I'm not surprised he's on that side of the fence.

[Croesy Blue]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

I don’t think he should be punished any more than he has been but it’s crazy how the exact people think an 18 year old isn’t old enough to not say racist things and his racism is learnt behaviour, also think a 14 year old girl is old enough to have her citizenship revoked for being a terrorist completely off her own back.

[LeningradCowboy]

Re: Ollie Robinson/Twitter

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/57407788

The England and Wales Cricket Board says it will take "relevant and appropriate action" after historical tweets from several England players were "questioned publicly".