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[chrisp_1927]

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Hats off to Lloyd, Carlson and the bowlers. They somehow managed to bail us out of the damage cooke inflicted. The bowling performance from Glamorgan was incredible.

Fair play to Jamieson as well though, showed brilliant character and skill at the end

[the other bob wilson]

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Well done to the youngsters Sisodiya, Walker and Pearce (especially Walker), ten overs overs between them for fifty three runs I make it - Glamorgan spared one of the umpires (Bainton?) some embarrassment, because Billy Root ran out Ollie Pope when he only had six and he was given not out (apparently there’s a picture which shows that Pope was out).

[MacAdder]

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Feck, missed it!
Great win though.

[Pearcey3]

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Well done to the youngsters Sisodiya, Walker and Pearce (especially Walker), ten overs overs between them for fifty three runs I make it - Glamorgan spared one of the umpires (Bainton?) some embarrassment, because Billy Root ran out Ollie Pope when he only had six and he was given not out (apparently there’s a picture which shows that Pope was out).

Root did well today. His four sixes at the end made a big difference. He joint top scored with Lloyd and scored his runs off less balls than Lloyd.

[chrisp_1927]

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Root did well today. His four sixes at the end made a big difference. He joint top scored with Lloyd and scored his runs off less balls than Lloyd.

It was a great last over. I felt a bit sorry for root before that, because he was trying to hit it, but just couldn't pierce the field. Can't get away from the fact his 17 off 22 had nearly sunk us mind. He turned a probable 140 score into 153, but only after him and Cooke had turned 180 plus into 140.

[Pearcey3]

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It was a great last over. I felt a bit sorry for root before that, because he was trying to hit it, but just couldn't pierce the field. Can't get away from the fact his 17 off 22 had nearly sunk us mind. He turned a probable 140 score into 153, but only after him and Cooke had turned 180 plus into 140.

The momentum had been lost by the time Root came in. Cooke has had a poor tournament but ultimately Ingram is supposed to be the star performer and has been hopeless.

[the other bob wilson]

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David Harrison to take over coaching duties from Matt Maynard (who'll be involved with the Welsh Fire in the One Hundred) for the one day cup, while Kiran Carlson will captain the team - also talk about getting a top order overseas batsman in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/57653602

[chrisp_1927]

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David Harrison to take over coaching duties from Matt Maynard (who'll be involved with the Welsh Fire in the One Hundred) for the one day cup, while Kiran Carlson will captain the team - also talk about getting a top order overseas batsman in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/57653602

Good step up for Carlson. Would quite like to see Joe Cooke and Selman play every game in the top 3 through the tournament personally. Might not be our optimal 50 over option, but if we want to solve our championship opening woes we could do with the pair of them getting a good run and being allowed to pick up some form.

[willo1927]

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It was a great last over. I felt a bit sorry for root before that, because he was trying to hit it, but just couldn't pierce the field. Can't get away from the fact his 17 off 22 had nearly sunk us mind. He turned a probable 140 score into 153, but only after him and Cooke had turned 180 plus into 140.

Bit harsh on Root
If he had gone too early we might only have got 130 or so as there was wickets falling around him.
Looks like he timed it to perfection

[chrisp_1927]

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Bit harsh on Root
If he had gone too early we might only have got 130 or so as there was wickets falling around him.
Looks like he timed it to perfection

We were 81/3 after 9.2 when him and Cooke came together. So a pretty strong position, although admittedly would have been better if Cooke hadn't just run out our best batsman. They then had 5 overs together and only scored 25 runs. It was a disaster

[willo1927]

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We were 81/3 after 9.2 when him and Cooke came together. So a pretty strong position, although admittedly would have been better if Cooke hadn't just run out our best batsman. They then had 5 overs together and only scored 25 runs. It was a disaster

We were 81 for 1 just 2 balls earlier.
Had we lost another wicket or 2 in the next 5 overs that would have been a disaster.
Find it harsh you are having a go at the joint top scorer who scored at the fastest rate.
So if he had scored 15 runs in 8 balls and got out you would have been happier with that than his 41????

[MacAdder]

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I find the 20 20 form of cricket a bit of a lottery really.

There isn't a lot of time for a batsman to play himself in but as has been said, sometimes you have to look at the overall position before going gung ho.

As I said earlier, I didn't see this match but
that Sophia gardens is a bugger to bat on as the England Sri Lanka games showed last week. As such I wouldn't be too harsh on the batsmen for "steadying the ship" midway through the innings, particularly if the opposition's danger men are bowling.

Anyway, the result is all that matters and you have shirley got to give Root credit for his part in the win.

[chrisp_1927]

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We were 81 for 1 just 2 balls earlier.
Had we lost another wicket or 2 in the next 5 overs that would have been a disaster.
Find it harsh you are having a go at the joint top scorer who scored at the fastest rate.
So if he had scored 15 runs in 8 balls and got out you would have been happier with that than his 41????

Of course I wouldn't have been happier with that, in the end 41 worked out well for us. But only because of a brilliant bowling display. Relying on 24 off the last over isn't good innings building, its getting lucky at the end.

In hindsight, Root did do well. Because his lack of scoring early on wasn't due to a lack of trying, he just kept finding fielders. He then had a good combination of skill, frustration and a smidgen of luck that helped him smash 24 off the last over. Cooke on the other hand looked comfortable, but just wouldn't go for it.

25 in 5 overs when 3 wickets down is insanely bad, I find the idea that it was all part of a grand plan that worked a bit strange.

[the other bob wilson]

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I think you need to take on board the problems a Surrey side with two current test batsmen, a recognised T20 specialist in Evans and the player who put together the most destructive one day innings I've seen in ages in one day cricket in Jacks had in chasing what most thought would be an easy target for a team that should qualify from the group. It looked a decent wicket last night, but the scores suggest that it was another Cardiff pitch where batsmen struggled especially after the new ball lost a bit of its hardness. Everything we've seen this season says that a par score at Cardiff is somewhere around the 150/160 mark and so, although the Glamorgan innings had an uneven look to it, they started and ended very well, certainly better than Surrey, their score was proven to be a competitive one for Sophia Gardens - it's the usual thing, don't judge a wicket or an innings until both sides have batted.

[willo1927]

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Of course I wouldn't have been happier with that, in the end 41 worked out well for us. But only because of a brilliant bowling display. Relying on 24 off the last over isn't good innings building, its getting lucky at the end.

In hindsight, Root did do well. Because his lack of scoring early on wasn't due to a lack of trying, he just kept finding fielders. He then had a good combination of skill, frustration and a smidgen of luck that helped him smash 24 off the last over. Cooke on the other hand looked comfortable, but just wouldn't go for it.

25 in 5 overs when 3 wickets down is insanely bad, I find the idea that it was all part of a grand plan that worked a bit strange.

If you look at both innings the middle overs were the lowest scoring for both teams.mainly because the spinners were on and were hard to get away.
It was far easier to score with pace on.
Root seemed to read the situation well and as you say you cant rely on 24 in the last over but it was vital to have a batsman who was set to take advantage of the situation.
If he had gone slow and then got out I would agree with you but I think he played a mature little knock to see us to victory.