GLAMMY

[TWGL1]

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Yes , and loads of other occasions , why don’t they just bowl full and straight and mix up the pace ?

[the other bob wilson]

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I remember watching us lose to Middlesex after scoring nearly 600 in the first innings. Both Viv Richards and Adrian Dale scored double centuries but we still managed to get bowled out cheaply in the last session on the final to lose.
It's nothing new.

Tufnell bowled us out for something like a hundred in the second innings of that that match and I’m fairly sure Middlesex bowled us out for 32 I think it was when we won the title in 97.

I tell a lie, it was 31!

http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1997/ENG_LOCAL/CC/R07/GLAM_MIDDX_CC_12-14JUN1997.html

[Hilts]

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Buttler has a test average of 31.94 over 57 tests, not great I accept, but there’s that stat doing the rounds about Rory Burns being the only one of the England batsmen brought into the team in recent years to have an average of over 30 and it’s barely over it - it’s less than Buttler’s .

Now, if you want to talk about under achieving test batsmen then Mark Ramprakash is right up there - 27.32 in fifty two tests, that’s a woeful return for a specialist batsman with the amount of ability he had.

Ramprakash just fell apart mentally.

His introduction I believe was against that fantastic West Indies side.

Massive under achiever. I actually thought he should have been brought back in his mid to late 30s.

Pope I believe averages around 50 , Vince around 40.

So many batsmen have terrible techniques its hardly suprising. Dates back to around the 80s when for some reason some thought the way to go was standing upright like a baseball player.

[the other bob wilson]

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I’ve been abroad and not been able to keep an eye on this, save the notifications coming through, which has done me a favour I guess. What a turnaround from last week.

Following on from what TOBW has said re: playing Middlesex at Sophia Gardens. I can’t back this up with any stats but I’ve half thought for a while that we’ve tended to do better away from home generally and we don’t get much of a home advantage in Cardiff. But as I’ve said, that’s not based on any stats I’ve bothered to unearth and probably added to by the fact we’ve not been that great consistently at home - or away! - for a while generally.

I do have a soft spot for St Helen’s and it’s a shame the state it’s gotten into. On talk of out grounds, I picked up some Wisden book on county cricket grounds in a charity shop in east London a few years back. Great little Time Capsule of a book, pre Durham getting first class status I think. Glammy had quite a number in there, I’d have to check but one of the most out of any county, but also easily the most venues out of the historic county too compared to others. Outside of the ones mentioned here so far I think Ponty, Merthyr, Ebbw Vale, Aberystwyth and Llanelli, have all hosted games at some points.

Yes, I can remember us playing at all of those grounds - I’ve seen us play at the first three of them. We also played a Sunday League match at Pentyrch about thirty years ago and we played Surrey a few years at some village in west Wales, I’d not heard of before or since!

We beat Kent and Middlesex at Cardiff in four matches last season and I seem to remember reading after the first of them that was our first win Cardiff for three years - I may be wrong there, but we haven’t won many in Cardiff in the last decade or so.

[the other bob wilson]

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Ramprakash just fell apart mentally.

His introduction I believe was against that fantastic West Indies side.

Massive under achiever. I actually thought he should have been brought back in his mid to late 30s.

Pope I believe averages around 50 , Vince around 40.

So many batsmen have terrible techniques its hardly suprising. Dates back to around the 80s when for some reason some thought the way to go was standing upright like a baseball player.

Pope and Vince might have those averages in the first class game, but they definitely don’t in test cricket.

[Hilts]

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Pope and Vince might have those averages in the first class game, but they definitely don’t in test cricket.

Yes. I meant 1st class. Thats the issue. There are few batsmen in 1st class cricket really knocking that door down to be picked.

Ive found myself saying put in Livingstone. But Ive said the same about Buttler , Hales , Roy all these destructive batsmen.

On the flip side then theres the likes of Roy and Sibley with appalling techniques.

The Test side is a complete mess.

[Pearcey3]

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I remember watching us lose to Middlesex after scoring nearly 600 in the first innings. Both Viv Richards and Adrian Dale scored double centuries but we still managed to get bowled out cheaply in the last session on the final to lose.
It's nothing new.

I’m a long suffering Glammy fan too! This performance really hasn’t been acceptable with the side we had out. This is a strong line up and they should have done a lot better.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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I remember watching us lose to Middlesex after scoring nearly 600 in the first innings. Both Viv Richards and Adrian Dale scored double centuries but we still managed to get bowled out cheaply in the last session on the final to lose.
It's nothing new.

I watched some that one too. Still can't believe we lost!

[TWGL1]

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Yes, I can remember us playing at all of those grounds - I’ve seen us play at the first three of them. We also played a Sunday League match at Pentyrch about thirty years ago and we played Surrey a few years at some village in west Wales, I’d not heard of before or since!

We beat Kent and Middlesex at Cardiff in four matches last season and I seem to remember reading after the first of them that was our first win Cardiff for three years - I may be wrong there, but we haven’t won many in Cardiff in the last decade or so.

I went to that one in Pentyrch , I think it was Northamptonshire and Curtley Ambrose was playing

[the other bob wilson]

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I went to that one in Pentyrch , I think it was Northamptonshire and Curtley Ambrose was playing

Yes it was Northants - here’s a list of the grounds Glamorgan have played at;-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Glamorgan_County_Cricket_Club_grounds

[The Bloop]

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I remember going to Ynysangharad Park to watch Jacques Kallis's debut in the Sunday league. He scored a big 100 and was just hitting the ball out of the park for fun.

[Hot Shot Hamish.]

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I was working on the main scoreboard that day. Had a few beers too many and I had the one Surrey bowler as having bowled 17 overs. I think it was a 50 over game with a max of 10 overs per bowler. By the time they put me on traffic duty to clear the park at the end of the game it was safer for the drivers to work out their exit without my assistance! As a Pontypridd player having Glamorgan use our ground was something super special. Saw Viv score a great ton there against Derby. Pakistan 500 odd for 2 Saheed Anwar and Inzamam getting huge hundreds. 1994 South Africans. Malcolm Marshall skittled Glamorgan and getting back to Southampton for his 4.30 tee off time. Great memories!

[The Bloop]

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Second century of the season for Bracey of Gloucestershire and Haines of Sussex is 203 not out, a couple of possible England players doing well there.

There’s a possibility of a remarkable achievement at Canterbury where Kent opener Ben Compton (Dennis Compton’s grand son), having carried his bat in the first innings is still in second time around with seven wickets down - I’m sure an opener has batted right through both innings some time before in cricket, but, having been a fan of the game since the mid sixties, I’m not sure it’s happened in the domestic game in all of that time.

Bob - a bit more on Ben Compton in this week's Ask Steven column

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ask-steven-how-often-has-a-batter-been-run-out-without-facing-a-delivery-at-the-start-of-a-t20-innings-1312290

[the other bob wilson]

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Bob - a bit more on Ben Compton in this week's Ask Steven column

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/a...nnings-1312290

Thanks Bloop, I’d heard somewhere else that the lbw decision that probably cost him his two not outs was a shocker.