The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

[Zowhore]

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I suppose there’s three possibilities, he’s injured, he’s still working on his fitness or he’s involved tonight, I’d say that the last one is the outsider of the three.

No score at half time.

As a regular watcher of U23 games, do we often send first team players away with the U23’s to get fit? Regarding Tomlin- I always presumed clubs arrange home fixtures to get first team players fit and don’t expect them to stay and play away?

[jon1959]

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Lost 1 - 0

No idea how long Tomlin played. Very few tweets from the u23s.

[Rjk]

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As a regular watcher of U23 games, do we often send first team players away with the U23’s to get fit? Regarding Tomlin- I always presumed clubs arrange home fixtures to get first team players fit and don’t expect them to stay and play away?

Usually senior players coming back from injury will play 1 or 2 games in development wont they - how many has Tomlin been in now?

[the other bob wilson]

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As a regular watcher of U23 games, do we often send first team players away with the U23’s to get fit? Regarding Tomlin- I always presumed clubs arrange home fixtures to get first team players fit and don’t expect them to stay and play away?

Mick McCarthy was saying that Osei-Tutu would need to play a couple of Under 23 games after he returned to training last week, so, with the international break coming, it looks like it’s going to be quite well into April if and when he does come into the first team squad.

[City123]

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Some contract signings. Kieron Evans agreeing a two year deal, Keenan Patten a one year deal & a one year deal for Ibrahim Bakare who I assume is the trialist nobody knew?

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/evans-patten-extend-deals-bakare-signs

[Rjk]

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Some contract signings. Kieron Evans agreeing a two year deal, Keenan Patten a one year deal & a one year deal for Ibrahim Bakare who I assume is the trialist nobody knew?

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...s-bakare-signs

interesting career so far that Bakare.
seems to have gone from something called Mass Elite Academy in London and joined Morecambe as a 16 year old. but he had in his contract that he could go on trial to other clubs and the manager has got tired of him going off on trials every week so he's let him go.

to my very non expert eye, he looked excellent in a back three when on trial with us.

surprised he's only 18 too as he's a big guy. definitely had a bit of a growth spurt since transfermarkt recorded his height as 1.8m.

[the other bob wilson]

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Some contract signings. Kieron Evans agreeing a two year deal, Keenan Patten a one year deal & a one year deal for Ibrahim Bakare who I assume is the trialist nobody knew?

https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...s-bakare-signs

Good news and it certainly sounds like Bakere was the trialist. It’s a little bit concerning that there’s no news about Sam Bowen signing a new deal though - hopefully, that will be confirmed soon.

[the other bob wilson]

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Mick McCarthy was saying that Osei-Tutu would need to play a couple of Under 23 games after he returned to training last week, so, with the international break coming, it looks like it’s going to be quite well into April if and when he does come into the first team squad.

Confirmation it was Arsenal who decided Osei-Tutu shouldn't play yesterday and Curtis Nelson is out of the Swansea match - we're really down to the bare bones at the back.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cautious-arsenal-delaying-jordi-osei-20193057

[Rjk]

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Confirmation it was Arsenal who decided Osei-Tutu shouldn't play yesterday and Curtis Nelson is out of the Swansea match - we're really down to the bare bones at the back.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-osei-20193057

get bakere on the bench

[the other bob wilson]

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get bakere on the bench

Think it'll have to be a youngster if we want to have defensive cover because it's hard to see how we can get a centreback out of the senior players we used last night or those who were on the bench.

[J R Hartley]

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Good news and it certainly sounds like Bakere was the trialist. It’s a little bit concerning that there’s no news about Sam Bowen signing a new deal though - hopefully, that will be confirmed soon.

Sadly it don’t look like that will be happening.

[the other bob wilson]

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Sadly it don’t look like that will be happening.

Well, City keep on picking him for the under 23s every week and usually players they’ve decided to release drop out of our age group teams around February/March time, so I’m assuming that, if you’re right, we’re in Sion Spence, Harry Pinchard territory again and City are beginning to pay the consequences for not selecting youngsters in their first team for all of those years.
Bowen would be a sad loss if he leaves = there’s always the chance that he wouldn’t be good enough for the first team, but, if he could make the transition, he would go some way towards improving the quality of the passing of the first team squad. Recently, the first team and the Development side have been playing the same formation, but the difference in the quality of the passing between both teams has been like chalk and cheese with the kids both dominating the.ball and playing attractive, effective football - Bowen is a big reason for that in my book.

[J R Hartley]

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Well, City keep on picking him for the under 23s every week and usually players they’ve decided to release drop out of our age group teams around February/March time, so I’m assuming that, if you’re right, we’re in Sion Spence, Harry Pinchard territory again and City are beginning to pay the consequences for not selecting youngsters in their first team for all of those years.
Bowen would be a sad loss if he leaves = there’s always the chance that he wouldn’t be good enough for the first team, but, if he could make the transition, he would go some way towards improving the quality of the passing of the first team squad. Recently, the first team and the Development side have been playing the same formation, but the difference in the quality of the passing between both teams has been like chalk and cheese with the kids both dominating the.ball and playing attractive, effective football - Bowen is a big reason for that in my book.

It will be a massive shame. Hes been at the club since hes 7 or 8 and represented Wales at every level up to under 21s.

However, with a couple of young midfielders already been given contract extensions recently - both of whom have been on the bench and one of whom has featured for the first team - all the signs point to him not being in the managers plans as far as first team is concerned, which ultimately at 20 years of age has got to be the aim next season.

Also, im not sure how much importance Mick places on a player of Bowens ability. He seems happy to bypass midfield much like Harris and Warnock.

[Rjk]

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it does feel as though it is easier for the bigger/stronger/quicker players to make the step up, rather than the more cultured/skillful. but we aren't alone in that respect.

[the other bob wilson]

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As someone who has watched Patten and Bowen playing together for about four years now, they're a bit like a job lot as far as I'm concerned, they compliment each other really well - I think they both would have played first team football by now in the second tier in a different era.

I don't believe City are prepared to release Bowen because, as I mentioned earlier, he's still being picked for the Under 23s - he played ninety minutes for them on Tuesday.