The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

[The Hooded Claw]

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Didn’t Bristol City sell a 15 year old to Chelsea for £1m last year?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Glen Williams reporting "big six figure fees" for both

Ampadu was about £2.5m in the end I think, he and Elliott's deals went to a tribunal. Only reasons I can see is that they played in first team games

I do think we're far too cautious about giving young players a shot, look at someone like Conway at Bristol City, he was playing for Bath last season and is now in their first team. Sometimes they just need opportunity. We're still cautious giving players like Colwill & Davies runs in the team when the guys ahead of them are consistently poor

Not for the first time, I'm extremely confused. I thought EPPP was fixed and yet, it isn't. We need to start chucking young lads in but WBA do that all the time, are Cat 1 and their best players almost always go to Villa.

It is annoying because Crew, Biancheri, Benjamin and Perrett are probably the ones that would be future Cardiff players, I highly doubt if they'll make it at Man City etc, and they'd be the ones to break through. It is a bit of a vicious cycle.

Let's hope the club sit down with Perrett etc and can map out his path to convince him to stay, if he is this highly rated. The other thing is, that most of the young players that Swansea sell, and Bristol City, aren't actually their academy prospects either. James is from Hull, McBurnie was at Bradford, Alex Scott was from Guernsey and Semenyo came from South Glos College, all after 17. We've not given them loads of game time this year but Sang, Denham and Bagan have all broken through, while Colwill and Davies have made the jump. I'd rather we gave them a go than play Sawyers and Simpson, who are so far off the level, a young lad could not be less effective even if they aren't quite up to it.

[Whisperer]

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When this got pushed through, the PL said it is this, or no TV money. Nobody important cares because the big clubs get what they want and nothing will change. We can kick up a stink, it won't change anything. If they didn't punish them for the Super League stuff, they definitely won't change this. The only time it will change is if basically every club below the PL stops running academies because there's no point.

Yeah I remember the TV money scenario Pedro - I reckon we should shut the academy down immediately and give the facilities to the women.....I know Brentford got rid of their academy and they done okay without one. Modern football has become a fking disgrace.

[Whisperer]

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What is there to investigate? This is the system working as intended

Rest assured there's plenty of murk in there if someone had the bollocks to scratch the surface.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Rest assured there's plenty of murk in there if someone had the bollocks to scratch the surface.

It’s not even hidden, that’s the issue. It is there to help the PL clubs, so it’s part of the “greater good”

[2b2bdoo]

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May as well scrap the academy and save ourselves the money, absolute joke.

[Whisperer]

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It’s not even hidden, that’s the issue. It is there to help the PL clubs, so it’s part of the “greater good”

So it needs to be shouted from the rooftops and have a bit of light shined on it and lets see if the greedy cnuts can justify it.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Tom Davies loaned to Pontypridd https://mobile.twitter.com/CF11Acade...67616820199424

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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And Jack Leahy to Haverfordwest https://mobile.twitter.com/CF11Acade...75319508410376

[Rjk]

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those are both pretty underwhelming loans or is it just me?

[City123]

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those are both pretty underwhelming loans or is it just me?

Burnley just signed someone from Penybont for their under 21s so the standard can't be that bad

[FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead]

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The academy system was already busted, but with the new Brexit rules it's now almost pointless.

If a player is any good and has the potential to make our first team, then he'll be gone before he's 17. Which means we're just bringing through players who will likely be released.

So what is the point?

Its an absolutely massive shame for a club not to have an academy, but if there's not going to be any benefit to having one (other than hoping the odd talent blooms "late" and avoids the fishing net), it's worth seriously considering if that money can be invested elsewhere.

And in the meantime try and focus on scooping up some of the hoarded big 6 talent that will inevitably be released at 18 or 19 for our B/U23 team.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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those are both pretty underwhelming loans or is it just me?

The Davies loan might be useful but one would expect him to push for the first team squad next year. I don't hold out much hope for Leahy here so perhaps the club is helping him out with his next step?

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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those are both pretty underwhelming loans or is it just me?

Should really be playing at a higher level than that if they're going to break through into the 1st team in the next year or so shouldn't they?

[City123]

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Should really be playing at a higher level than that if they're going to break through into the 1st team in the next year or so shouldn't they?

Vinnie didn't say which Premier League he wants us to play in...