Omicron No more than a cold ?

[Jimmy the Jock]

When this super spreader variation of the covid virus arrived we were told to brace ourselves for the worst .

Except from the South Africans, were it originated said it wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as Delta. (Thats not headline news though is it?) There is a report coming out of Scotland today saying the same thing .

I have been looking for hospital figures and deaths but there doesn't appear to be the same appetite to publish them at the moment .

Am I missing the point , or have the government massively overreacted?

Happy to be put straight on this one.

[goats]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

They are blagging it we need to wait a bit longer, a bit longer, a bit longer…..lots of reports out though saying it is a milder version, easier to transmit but doesn’t get as far into the lungs to cause the same damage as Delta. I guess they want to be uber sure before we all strip naked and run around the streets

[blue matt]

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when Prof Doom & Gloom stood either side of Boris and told us the Omicron would double every 2 and 1/2 days, it looks bad

Well last week the new cases were 90K each day, yesterday they were 100k , they massively got it wrong, it should be over 1/2 mill new cases by tomorrow, its not, its 100k

Tuesday ( I think ) the UK had 44 deaths from people testing C19+ in the last 28 days, thats 44 deaths ( of course 44 too many )

[BLUETIT]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

When this super spreader variation of the covid virus arrived we were told to brace ourselves for the worst .

Except from the South Africans, were it originated said it wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as Delta. (Thats not headline news though is it?) There is a report coming out of Scotland today saying the same thing .

I have been looking for hospital figures and deaths but there doesn't appear to be the same appetite to publish them at the moment .

Am I missing the point , or have the government massively overreacted?

Happy to be put straight on this one.

The other day, Duckford was asked by two reporters, “could they see the figures”

Duckford looked flustered, as he gave a 10 page answer, which was basically, NO

The guy is engulfed in his own importance

[Jimmy the Jock]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

These figures are slightly higher than yours Matt.

But 194 more people admitted to hospital.. surely that is a nothing figure , how many people get admitted with flu each day?

[StraightOuttaCanton]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

when Prof Doom & Gloom stood either side of Boris and told us the Omicron would double every 2 and 1/2 days, it looks bad

Well last week the new cases were 90K each day, yesterday they were 100k , they massively got it wrong, it should be over 1/2 mill new cases by tomorrow, its not, its 100k

Tuesday ( I think ) the UK had 44 deaths from people testing C19+ in the last 28 days, thats 44 deaths ( of course 44 too many )

Depends how you look at the data. If it was 90k a day then it doubled every 2 days

[Hilts]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

I think up to yesterday there had been 12 deaths in the UK due to Omicron.

Lets hope it is milder. But comparisons to a cold? Not sure of being that hopeful.

How many people die of a cold each year?

[Jimmy the Jock]

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I think up to yesterday there had been 12 deaths in the UK due to Omicron.

Lets hope it is milder. But comparisons to a cold? Not sure of being that hopeful.

How many people die of a cold each year?

Would you have preferred the flu as a comparison?
Apparently kills 25,000 people each year.

[the other bob wilson]

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Just 2,300 new cases in Wales in the last twenty four hours. About ten days ago, there was talk that Omicron was reproducing at such a rate that, technically, every one in the UK could have it by New Years Day - speaking as someone who has largely favoured a cautious approach in the last two years, that’s clearly not happening is it. Furthermore, we’re now getting reports from the UK which, while not quite in the league of the earlier ones from South Africa, do back up the view that, thankfully, Omicron is not as bad as Delta and yet, the message from Government does not seem to have changed to reflect this.

[life on mars]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

When this super spreader variation of the covid virus arrived we were told to brace ourselves for the worst .

Except from the South Africans, were it originated said it wasn't anywhere near as dangerous as Delta. (Thats not headline news though is it?) There is a report coming out of Scotland today saying the same thing .

I have been looking for hospital figures and deaths but there doesn't appear to be the same appetite to publish them at the moment .

Am I missing the point , or have the government massively overreacted?

Happy to be put straight on this one.

I think were now in fear factor world , as leader of any administration around the world you just cant take a risk .

For the UK I think the English route of self responsibility measures seems to be the better option at this moment in time ( time will tell though as were in Covid political point scoring world now )

[Hilts]

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Would you have preferred the flu as a comparison?
Apparently kills 25,000 people each year.

Im really hoping its milder than the flu.

I also dont know the comparison on the transmission comparisons between flu and omicron.

The problem is if its the equivalent of flu this virus is spreading so fast then the NHS is going to be in trouble quickly.

Not just the NHS with staff of sick and isolating but all businesses including essential public services.

[Tuerto]

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Isn't it wonderful that the scientists may have got it wrong? No doubt that the information is sketchy and the lack of any real positivity from the bods who make the decisions does have a negative effect on the population in my opinion, although there does seem the usual amount of paranoia in this thread. When has somebody who works high up in the medical profession ever given the best case scenario? They always give out the worst case.

[Jimmy the Jock]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Isn't it wonderful that the scientists may have got it wrong? No doubt that the information is sketchy and the lack of any real positivity from the bods who make the decisions does have a negative effect on the population in my opinion, although there does seem the usual amount of paranoia in this thread. When has somebody who works high up in the medical profession ever given the best case scenario? They always give out the worst case.

Where is the paranoia?

I have followed the rules up to now ,pretty much understood the dangers, this feels like nonsense . I started the thread in case I am missing the point..
Hilts mentioning people being off work has a degree of something to be considered.
If Omicron is just a cold/flu , surely we just need to get on with it ?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Isn't it wonderful that the scientists may have got it wrong? No doubt that the information is sketchy and the lack of any real positivity from the bods who make the decisions does have a negative effect on the population in my opinion, although there does seem the usual amount of paranoia in this thread. When has somebody who works high up in the medical profession ever given the best case scenario? They always give out the worst case.

Scientists are well aware that they get things wrong as they may have incomplete information/data in the first place. Many of them actually enjoy learning that they are wrong if it means that they subsequently learn more about any particular subject. Science means knowledge after all.

[Whisperer]

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My son has tested positive for Omicron this week - symptoms not as bad as a winter cold, any other virus he would go to work and get through the day. so everyone I know who's had it say's it's fcuk all.