Omicron No more than a cold ?

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Agreed, but that will almost certainly mean increased taxes, will people vote for any party that runs on a ticket of taking more of their money?

If (and it's a big if) it is communicated properly, honestly, and fairly by any party and politician then there is some hope. These candid talks and discussions need to take place. The public needs to be told that healthcare is a priority. This doesn't mean just chucking money at the NHS, it means honestly discussing and recognising that all services and training has to be joined up. Money has to be made available and even small increases in taxation will help.

The current government, in my view, have done untold damage to the credibility of politicians and the key strategy for any opposition has to be from a point of honesty and treating the public as adults.

[life on mars]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

BreakingNews ::

Omicron up to 70% less likely to need hospital care

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59769969

Please forward to Mr Drakeford.

[UNDERHILL1927]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

BreakingNews ::

Omicron up to 70% less likely to need hospital care

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59769969

Please forward to Mr Drakeford.

Makes a mockery of restrictions

[life on mars]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Makes a mockery of restrictions

It's political now, I notice Labour now refer to the wonderful example Welsh Labour sets .

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Makes a mockery of restrictions

It does but we had to take action prior to that data confirmed. Not easy when you're working on guesses

Problem is we won't now and retrospectively change those overzealous decisions

[DubaiDai]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

I think were now in fear factor world , as leader of any administration around the world you just cant take a risk .

For the UK I think the English route of self responsibility measures seems to be the better option at this moment in time ( time will tell though as were in Covid political point scoring world now )

I think Wales is coming out with extra measures as our NHS is by far the worst in Britain. So the new measures are to try to reduce even more people seeking medical help

[Grangenders]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Whichever government runs this country for the next 10/20 years we really need to invest in the nhs, more doctors, nurses, hospitals etc…the amount we have compared to a country like Germany is woeful…..

This is the way forward, but unfortunately I suspect that most politicians will think that if the NHS survived this pandemic then it can survive when it’s over, with no need with further investment.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...ocations=GB-DE

Couple of things, the data's 2 years old and in my view doesn't address the 'types' of physicians needed e.g. I'm pretty sure the spike in the graph in 2000 was a massive increase/influx of GPs? The number of GPs and other Drs is dropping because of Brexit and Covid stress-related issues now and over the last 2 years of the pandemic, I would expect this graph to plummet (of course I could be wrong).

I'm not convinced that physician is a good term when planning resources either.

[az city]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

BreakingNews ::

Omicron up to 70% less likely to need hospital care

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59769969

Please forward to Mr Drakeford.

"... [M]edical experts agree that the higher transmissibility of the virus poses a severe threat to health care systems even if symptoms are milder, because the sheer volume of infections will likely lead to more people needing hospital care."

CNBC, 24 hours ago.

[DubaiDai]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

If (and it's a big if) it is communicated properly, honestly, and fairly by any party and politician then there is some hope. These candid talks and discussions need to take place. The public needs to be told that healthcare is a priority. This doesn't mean just chucking money at the NHS, it means honestly discussing and recognising that all services and training has to be joined up. Money has to be made available and even small increases in taxation will help.

The current government, in my view, have done untold damage to the credibility of politicians and the key strategy for any opposition has to be from a point of honesty and treating the public as adults.

Agree with all you have said. Politicians keep mentioning more money but the best solution is to publish the number of nurses and doctors in each of the four UK countries. After all we were all told that visas for these people would be processed immediately to make sure the numbers increased quickly.
Since then not one country has mentioned any staff numbers to show improvement.

[MOZZER2]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Regarding Omicron Denmark currently has one of the top infection rates in the world and the second highest Omicron rate in Europe, behind the U.K., which has similar vaccination levels and an even higher booster rate.

The double-vaccinated accounted for more than 14,000 of 17,767 Omicron infections recorded in Denmark since the country’s first reported case on November 22.

looking at stats from denmark looks grim reading when it comes to seeing how effective vaccines are . see reports

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/shock-data-90-percent-of-omicron-cases-in-denmark-are-vaccinated/

https://meaninginhistory.substack.com/p/what-is-denmark-and-omicron-telling

[az city]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Couple of things, the data's 2 years old and in my view doesn't address the 'types' of physicians needed e.g. I'm pretty sure the spike in the graph in 2000 was a massive increase/influx of GPs? The number of GPs and other Drs is dropping because of Brexit and Covid stress-related issues now and over the last 2 years of the pandemic, I would expect this graph to plummet (of course I could be wrong).

I'm not convinced that physician is a good term when planning resources either.

I don't have an agenda or view on this. I was curious and looked up the data. That is all. Honestly, I was surprised the UK has a higher ratio of medics per capita.

Having lived in France, I'd say the poster child for medics per capita in Europe would be there.

[Tuerto]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Regarding Omicron Denmark currently has one of the top infection rates in the world and the second highest Omicron rate in Europe, behind the U.K., which has similar vaccination levels and an even higher booster rate.

The double-vaccinated accounted for more than 14,000 of 17,767 Omicron infections recorded in Denmark since the country’s first reported case on November 22.

looking at stats from denmark looks grim reading when it comes to seeing how effective vaccines are . see reports

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/shock-data-90-percent-of-omicron-cases-in-denmark-are-vaccinated/

https://meaninginhistory.substack.co...micron-telling

Lifesite-**** me Mozz, they're far right loonies with form for making shit up. You love these far right conspiracy websites.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

"... [M]edical experts agree that the higher transmissibility of the virus poses a severe threat to health care systems even if symptoms are milder, because the sheer volume of infections will likely lead to more people needing hospital care."

CNBC, 24 hours ago.

OK, I'm not picking on you or your posts, it's just that the quote really annoys me. What does it actually mean? How does it translate into numbers requiring hospital care? The weasel-word phrases like 'likely lead...' don't help. We may as well stop all treatments and divert resources in medical facilities when there's ice on the motorways as this is more likely to cause pile-ups and swamp A&E.

[Tuerto]

Re: Omicron No more than a cold ?

Lifesite-**** me Mozz, they're far right loonies with form for making shit up. You love these far right conspiracy websites.

And the other one is a religious right wing loony. Fair play Mozz.