Non-white City fans

[B. Oddie]

Considering that Cardiff is arguably one of the most diverse areas in the United Kingdom, it's surprising that there never seems to be many non-white fans in the stands.

I've seen groups of Asian people in the first few rows of the Canton stand on an odd occasion but mainly in the recent Premier League season.

It makes me wonder why it's a sea of white faces when you look around and I'd be interested to know people's opinion on this.

It's fair to state that most people follow their clubs because their Dads/Grandads took them as boys and they've carried on going with their own kids. Could it be that racism from generations ago stopped men taking their sons due to feeling vulnerable and this has trickled down?

That brings about another question, too - Are there any fans on here who were never bothered about football as a child but starting going when they got older independent of any family or friends?

It seems strange that football teams all over the UK are a melting pot of different races, but are not represented at the stadium by fans.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Non-white City fans

Considering that Cardiff is arguably one of the most diverse areas in the United Kingdom…..

Is it really? On what evidence do you base such a claim?

[Moodybluebird]

Re: Non-white City fans

Considering that Cardiff is arguably one of the most diverse areas in the United Kingdom, it's surprising that there never seems to be many non-white fans in the stands.

I've seen groups of Asian people in the first few rows of the Canton stand on an odd occasion but mainly in the recent Premier League season.

It makes me wonder why it's a sea of white faces when you look around and I'd be interested to know people's opinion on this.

It's fair to state that most people follow their clubs because their Dads/Grandads took them as boys and they've carried on going with their own kids. Could it be that racism from generations ago stopped men taking their sons due to feeling vulnerable and this has trickled down?

That brings about another question, too - Are there any fans on here who were never bothered about football as a child but starting going when they got older independent of any family or friends?

It seems strange that football teams all over the UK are a melting pot of different races, but are not represented at the stadium by fans.

All people are welcome at our club regardless of colour, religion etc, which is as it should be. If a certain section of society choose not to support their local football club that is their choice.

For you to bring this to our attention suggests that you seem unduly concerned by the lack of non-white faces around you. Personally, when I attend football matches I am totally focussed on the performance of my team, not the demographic make-up of the crowd.

[Rjk]

Re: Non-white City fans

Is it really? On what evidence do you base such a claim?

its clearly not

Cardiff is the most diverse part of Wales, but very far from being one of the most diverse parts of the UK

[blue matt]

Re: Non-white City fans

Considering that Cardiff is arguably one of the most diverse areas in the United Kingdom, it's surprising that there never seems to be many non-white fans in the stands.

I've seen groups of Asian people in the first few rows of the Canton stand on an odd occasion but mainly in the recent Premier League season.

It makes me wonder why it's a sea of white faces when you look around and I'd be interested to know people's opinion on this.

It's fair to state that most people follow their clubs because their Dads/Grandads took them as boys and they've carried on going with their own kids. Could it be that racism from generations ago stopped men taking their sons due to feeling vulnerable and this has trickled down?

That brings about another question, too - Are there any fans on here who were never bothered about football as a child but starting going when they got older independent of any family or friends?

It seems strange that football teams all over the UK are a melting pot of different races, but are not represented at the stadium by fans.

Sludge will be along soon to clear this up, when he allegedly met with some Asian lads and they told him why they didnt feel welcome

[life on mars]

Re: Non-white City fans

I wouldn't say it's the most diverse, it's true to say it has a larger ethnic percentage than most parts of Wales which is common throughout the world and capital cities .

To become completely diverse I would suggest say we need to become a society where we live amongst each other right across the City , not like it is now where ethnic people feel happier amongst themselves as a tight knit community , and not spread far and wide .

[adz-a32]

Re: Non-white City fans

Speaking as an Asian, I first got into football via my peers, both Asian and non-Asian. So the first teams I was aware of were Arsenal, Man Utd etc. Loved Henry when I was a really young kid. But I think the FA Cup run helped me get more into Cardiff and also increasing coverage of the EFL on TV and online (bearing in mind I spent most of my childhood away from South Wales, that did help a lot).

I think with the race thing, some Asians have the view that football fans are racist (some of my Asian mates even warn me to be careful at games!) so it must have tricked down. I think also in the past, only the big clubs would have been on TV so the support for these clubs may have trickled down, as some people get to know about football via their peers.

When I was younger, I used to go to City games with my parents, but as I got older I started going with friends. Though with your granddad/dad point, my dad isn't into football as much, but I think via my passion for football both my parents have an appreciation for the game.

It is interesting though how most Asians I know are into the big clubs but I think it might be mainly because of TV/media coverage and getting into football via peers, rather than via family

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Non-white City fans

I think the thrust of the opening question was valid and I think that some posters were a tad harsh about the exact wording. All credit to adz for enlightening us regarding his personal and relevant experience regarding this matter and which has crossed my mind previously.

[Whisperer]

Re: Non-white City fans

I know at Fulham the local residents are given free tickets and really encouraged to attend games…there’s a great opportunity for our club to do the same and target our ethnic community’s.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Non-white City fans

Is it really? On what evidence do you base such a claim?

The Cencus

16 percent of the cities population is from an ethnic minority , its a far higher figure than the UK average

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Non-white City fans

All people are welcome at our club regardless of colour, religion etc, which is as it should be. If a certain section of society choose not to support their local football club that is their choice.

For you to bring this to our attention suggests that you seem unduly concerned by the lack of non-white faces around you. Personally, when I attend football matches I am totally focussed on the performance of my team, not the demographic make-up of the crowd.

I assume like me you are white

Therefore we don't really have any idea of whether Cardiff City is welcoming to non White fans or not

The evidence suggests that people from Cardiffs ethnic minorities do not attend games in large numbers

That choice not to attend may be through feeling uneasy in doing so , not that straightforward

The attitude of ccfc regarding the mural in the bay that it might cause reverse racism would have been laughable if it wasn't a serious statement

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Non-white City fans

its clearly not

Cardiff is the most diverse part of Wales, but very far from being one of the most diverse parts of the UK

For a city of its size , its very diverse

And proportionately , outside of London, Birmingham and Manchester , its very diverse

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Non-white City fans

Sludge will be along soon to clear this up, when he allegedly met with some Asian lads and they told him why they didnt feel welcome

No allegedly about it

Its ironic how white people tell us Cardiff City doesn't have a problem with racism

How the feck would you know ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Non-white City fans

I think the thrust of the opening question was valid and I think that some posters were a tad harsh about the exact wording. All credit to adz for enlightening us regarding his personal and relevant experience regarding this matter and which has crossed my mind previously.

It's a very valid post and people are very precious about Cardiff City being a club that welcomes everyone and .....we don't have a problem with racism etc etc ....almost always white fans discussing this by the way

[Kitman]

Re: Non-white City fans

For a city of its size , its very diverse

And proportionately , outside of London, Birmingham and Manchester , its very diverse

The UK average is 86% white, Cardiff is 84% it has an average level of diversity.

It isn’t “very diverse” in any stretch of the imagination