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  • #31
    Re: Non-white City fans

    As someone who has been going 'down the City' for forty years, I would say that the make-up of the crowds attending games has changed. Crowds are older (generally speaking) than they used to be. There are far more women and girls at football than there used to be. And there are more black or Asian fans than there used to be. I agree that the figure for black/Asian fans is not as high as the 16% quoted elsewhere, but it is certainly higher. These things take time.

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    • #32
      Re: Non-white City fans

      Originally posted by AfricanBluebird View Post
      This is an important thread.

      As someone who comes from a mixed family with both Ugandans and Nigerians in my family, I can only share 'our' experiences. When I used take my son when he was a kid, I was quite consious that often he and my brother in law were two of a minority of black people attending games.

      Now my son is in his kid twenties and lives a few doors down from the ground, he goes to games with his mates as I spend most of my time in Uganda and India. He has never experienced any racism at city and attends games regularly.

      He plays for a football team in Grangetown which is almost exclusively black or Asian. He often asks his teammates to go along with him but there is still some resistance due to some perceived ideas that they wouldn't be welcome. Also these are working class boys who can't afford tickets. However, they all look out for and support city.

      I do think the club could do a better job of engaging with minorities and encouraging them to attend games. My city, my shirt is a wonderful idea and the club scored an on goal with not engaging with that.

      Cardiff has growing diversity and on a purely economic basis the club needs to tap into sections of our communities who love football so they feel more welcome at city.

      On a positive note the CCFC foundation actually does a tremendous job I'm communities, many black and Asian... But the club needs to do more.
      Good post. And nice to read a first hand account of the situation.

      I totally agree our club can and should be much better at engaging with the community. The recent trip to Liverpool really highlighted the difference between the 2 scouse teams and our own. You couldn’t throw a stone in the city centre without hitting a flag, scarf, poster, mural, shop selling club merchandise, etc for the 2 teams. In the area around Anfield I saw huge multi storey artworks for King Kenny, the CL winning team, Ex captains and on the way back I must’ve walked down one of the main routes to Goodison as there was a stretch of road lined with Everton flags.

      Now obviously the 2 clubs are much much bigger than our own but the My City My Shirt debacle shows how uncaring our club seems. I have no doubt if the same artist was from Liverpool both the clubs there would be happy to have covered the costs and probably commissioned more art.

      Considering how many millions we spend on players and wages it’s sad the club can’t set aside a few hundred thousand to fund or partially fund some engaging community projects.

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      • #33
        Re: Non-white City fans

        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
        No allegedly about it

        Its ironic how white people tell us Cardiff City doesn't have a problem with racism

        How the feck would you know ?
        But aren't you a white person telling us that Cardiff City does have a problem with racism. So how would you know ?

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        • #34
          Re: Non-white City fans

          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
          The trust tried

          The club wasn't really interested


          CCFC has never been any good at this sort of thing

          It's not a community club really
          Hasn’t the club won football community awards in the past ? If so, someone must think it is.

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          • #35
            Re: Non-white City fans

            Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
            Hasn’t the club won football community awards in the past ? If so, someone must think it is.
            Probably awarded by another white person who wouldn’t have the first clue about racism.

            You only have to look at the clubs response to the My City mural. Tone deaf.

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            • #36
              Re: Non-white City fans

              Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
              But aren't you a white person telling us that Cardiff City does have a problem with racism. So how would you know ?
              I usually support your never ending support of Cardiff City

              Bit when it comes to community initiatives Cardiff City is stuck in the old fourth division I am afraid .

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              • #37
                Re: Non-white City fans

                Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                Hasn’t the club won football community awards in the past ? If so, someone must think it is.
                That was regarding dealing with the naughty boys I believe

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                • #38
                  Re: Non-white City fans

                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  I usually support your never ending support of Cardiff City

                  Bit when it comes to community initiatives Cardiff City is stuck in the old fourth division I am afraid .
                  I am afraid your wrong on this one sludge . we are very active within communities throughout south wales over the last few years

                  Keep scrolling for the latest updates from the official charity of Cardiff City Football Club...

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                  • #39
                    Re: Non-white City fans

                    Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                    I am afraid your wrong on this one sludge . we are very active within communities throughout south wales over the last few years

                    https://www.cardiffcityfcfoundation.org.uk/news
                    Leathered Again

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                    • #40
                      Re: Non-white City fans

                      Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                      I am afraid your wrong on this one sludge . we are very active within communities throughout south wales over the last few years

                      https://www.cardiffcityfcfoundation.org.uk/news
                      Oh come on, anything in recent ( lets say last 20 years ) doesn't count

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                      • #41
                        Re: Non-white City fans

                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        No allegedly about it
                        Have you any proof of this alleged meeting ? ? ?

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                        • #42
                          Re: Non-white City fans

                          My daughter is genetically diverse, so a person of interest regarding this topic. However, we've never actually racially profiled our surroundings when we go out, as it just seems like an odd thing to do. Is it the media who are putting these ideas into peoples heads? I've had friends of from all backgrounds since school days, and never once felt the need to categorise anybody as being this or that. It's what you are as a person that matters.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Non-white City fans

                            Originally posted by blue matt View Post
                            Have you any proof of this alleged meeting ? ? ?
                            It's really tricky to be sure when someone posts an anecdote of some discussion they had with some random people whether it was factual or not I agree!

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                            • #44
                              Re: Non-white City fans

                              Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
                              I am afraid your wrong on this one sludge . we are very active within communities throughout south wales over the last few years

                              https://www.cardiffcityfcfoundation.org.uk/news
                              That's called blowing your own trumpet

                              We are doing a great job !

                              Who says ?

                              We do !

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                              • #45
                                Re: Non-white City fans

                                Originally posted by Packerman View Post
                                Leathered Again
                                I think you need to stick to ice hockey or whatever it is

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