Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

[Wales-Bales]

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C unts
Another Brexit benefit

What brexit, it looks like we are moving towards global governance?

[Citizen's Nephew]

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'The firm claimed almost £15m in government grants in 2020, which included furlough payments for its employees.

P&O is owned by DP World, the multi-national ports and logistics company based in Dubai. It paid a £270m dividend to shareholders in 2020.'

DP World sounds like a top-shelf magazine from the 80s.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Sniffs of a Murdoch style move from the 80's to break the unions grip , in this case its the RMT's turn, who are also busy on other fronts such as London Tube Strikes.

From The Evening Standard

“These are the very same transport staff praised as heroes for carrying London through Covid for nearly two years, often at serious personal risk, who now have no option but to strike to defend their livelihoods.

“The politicians need to wake up to the fact that transport staff will not pay the price for this cynically engineered crisis.

“In addition to the strike action RMT is co-ordinating a campaign of resistance with colleagues from other unions impacted by this threat.”

Talks at arbitration service Acas that could have seen the strikes postponed broke down last night, because according to the RMT, TfL “confirmed all the union’s worst fears that nothing is off the table in terms of the threat to jobs, pensions, conditions and safety”.

We need this kind of action more than ever. What P&O has done is immoral. RMT is doing the right thing. I won't hold my breath but I hope there is a massive backlash to this but I expect the right-wing to fall in behind the rich, the powerful, and the bosses over the ordinary workers.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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In fairness to Starmer, this is a good response and better than that wimp of a Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State at the Department for Transport.

https://twitter.com/keir_starmer/sta...54363091623947

[Citizen's Nephew]

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And here are the rich and powerful making out that DP World (not owned by Paul Raymond) are made to look like they give a sh*t about anything other than their shareholders, oh and public image. Ironically, they royally f*cked that, not even a person born out of a very special vagina could save them from the P&O debacle.

https://twitter.com/DP_World/status/1491788206802567170

[life on mars]

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From The Evening Standard

“These are the very same transport staff praised as heroes for carrying London through Covid for nearly two years, often at serious personal risk, who now have no option but to strike to defend their livelihoods.

“The politicians need to wake up to the fact that transport staff will not pay the price for this cynically engineered crisis.

“In addition to the strike action RMT is co-ordinating a campaign of resistance with colleagues from other unions impacted by this threat.”

Talks at arbitration service Acas that could have seen the strikes postponed broke down last night, because according to the RMT, TfL “confirmed all the union’s worst fears that nothing is off the table in terms of the threat to jobs, pensions, conditions and safety”.

We need this kind of action more than ever. What P&O has done is immoral. RMT is doing the right thing. I won't hold my breath but I hope there is a massive backlash to this but I expect the right-wing to fall in behind the rich, the powerful, and the bosses over the ordinary workers.

I disagree I think folk will support the workers hopefully the government will seek to have the Covid job projection funds returned

[Elwood Blues]

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I am. The employment solicitor mentions it in the BBC link.

I have seen the bit in the report, but ths still wasn't a case of fire and rehire because thst means firing the worker and then rehiring the same workers under different terms and conditions.

These workers didn't even get that chance they were summarily replaced with cheaper workers.

[the other bob wilson]

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When people are trying to defend the obscene wages and bonuses CEOs and other big wigs in private companies are paid, they say that you have to pay the going rate for such talent. What sort of "talent" is required to give the okay both to what P and O did and the way they went about doing it? There are kids who'll be going past my house soon on their way to the local primary school who know that, purely in PR terms, what P and O did was score a huge own goal yesterday. Even Putin didn't have the whole of Parliament against him when he sanctioned the invasion of Ukraine, but P and O have managed it - I still can't figure out whether whoever sanctioned that awful video shown yesterday was affected by arrogance or cowardice, probably it was both, but they were definitely incredibly stupid.

[JamesWales]

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When people are trying to defend the obscene wages and bonuses CEOs and other big wigs in private companies are paid, they say that you have to pay the going rate for such talent. What sort of "talent" is required to give the okay both to what P and O did and the way they went about doing it? There are kids who'll be going past my house soon on their way to the local primary school who know that, purely in PR terms, what P and O did was score a huge own goal yesterday. Even Putin didn't have the whole of Parliament against him when he sanctioned the invasion of Ukraine, but P and O have managed it - I still can't figure out whether whoever sanctioned that awful video shown yesterday was affected by arrogance or cowardice, probably it was both, but they were definitely incredibly stupid.

Totally agree. In terms of their methods there is probably a covid element here. "We needed to fire them in a safe manner, which was via pre recorded video etc". Utter fkn arseholes.

I'm on a ferry this summer, but it's Brittany Ferries. East for me me to say but I would strongly urge people to look at them and Irish Ferries and Stena. I can't say Ive heard of worse corporate behaviour than P&O on this

[The Lone Gunman]

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In January 2019, P&O removed all of its vessels from the UK register. They now operate under the flags of Cyprus, Finland, Malta, the Netherlands, the Bahamas and Bermuda.

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Would EU employment laws have prevented this?

[life on mars]

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We should just boycott them looking at average earning they don't earn a fortune

The average P&O Ferries salary ranges from approximately £14,947 per year for Operations Clerk to £89,450 per year for Service Crew. Average P&O Ferries hourly pay ranges from approximately £8.08 per hour for Stewardess to £11.96 per hour for Credit Controller.

However its seems they are better payers than most in that industry ??

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I wouldn't be surprised if are-branding exercise takes place in due course.

[JamesWales]

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Would EU employment laws have prevented this?

No. And what they have done is allegedly illegal anyway.

[The Bloop]

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Would EU employment laws have prevented this?

No. And what they have done is allegedly illegal anyway.

One observer said this morning that the payroll company is registered in Guernsey, so is not covered by UK or EU employment laws.