Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

[Dorcus]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

When people are trying to defend the obscene wages and bonuses CEOs and other big wigs in private companies are paid, they say that you have to pay the going rate for such talent. What sort of "talent" is required to give the okay both to what P and O did and the way they went about doing it? There are kids who'll be going past my house soon on their way to the local primary school who know that, purely in PR terms, what P and O did was score a huge own goal yesterday. Even Putin didn't have the whole of Parliament against him when he sanctioned the invasion of Ukraine, but P and O have managed it - I still can't figure out whether whoever sanctioned that awful video shown yesterday was affected by arrogance or cowardice, probably it was both, but they were definitely incredibly stupid.

Totally agree, this talent notion is bullshit anyway. Connections are what matter, not merit in such lofty positions.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

When people are trying to defend the obscene wages and bonuses CEOs and other big wigs in private companies are paid, they say that you have to pay the going rate for such talent. What sort of "talent" is required to give the okay both to what P and O did and the way they went about doing it? There are kids who'll be going past my house soon on their way to the local primary school who know that, purely in PR terms, what P and O did was score a huge own goal yesterday. Even Putin didn't have the whole of Parliament against him when he sanctioned the invasion of Ukraine, but P and O have managed it - I still can't figure out whether whoever sanctioned that awful video shown yesterday was affected by arrogance or cowardice, probably it was both, but they were definitely incredibly stupid.

The majority of people (not all) will vote with their pocket and this will all be forgotten about in a few months time.

[MacAdder]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

The majority of people (not all) will vote with their pocket and this will all be forgotten about in a few months time.

Sadly this is true.
Today's news, tomorrow's kebab wrapping.

Edit:
Which reminds me, anything happen to that bloke who had that lockdown party?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

The majority of people (not all) will vote with their pocket and this will all be forgotten about in a few months time.

I don’t think this will have an effect on how people vote in itself, and, anyway, every Tory I’ve heard speak on the subject has been scathing about P and O, but it does add to what I think, and hope, is a growing impression among the public that there are some pretty thick and completely selfish people in positions of power these days - it’s probably always been the case, but there doesn’t half seem to be a lot of them at the moment.

[JamesWales]

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I don’t think this will have an effect on how people vote in itself, and, anyway, every Tory I’ve heard speak on the subject has been scathing about P and O, but it does add to what I think, and hope, is a growing impression among the public that there are some pretty thick and completely selfish people in positions of power these days - it’s probably always been the case, but there doesn’t half seem to be a lot of them at the moment.

Why on earth would you expect anything other than being scathing about this, irrespective of how they may vote?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

Why on earth would you expect anything other than being scathing about this, irrespective of how they may vote?

I was saying this matter is non political in so far as all politicians I’ve heard talk about it have been scathing about P and O, but if you want to make it political, which party do you think it’s most likely those who came to the decision voted for in 2019? Could it be the one with a historic tendency to ride roughshod over worker’s rights?

[chrisp_1927]

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Totally agree. In terms of their methods there is probably a covid element here. "We needed to fire them in a safe manner, which was via pre recorded video etc". Utter fkn arseholes.

I'm on a ferry this summer, but it's Brittany Ferries. East for me me to say but I would strongly urge people to look at them and Irish Ferries and Stena. I can't say Ive heard of worse corporate behaviour than P&O on this

Irish ferries have some pretty shady employment practices themselves mind. I think they went down the cheap agency route a good few years ago.

[WJ99mobile]

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I don’t think this will have an effect on how people vote in itself, and, anyway, every Tory I’ve heard speak on the subject has been scathing about P and O, but it does add to what I think, and hope, is a growing impression among the public that there are some pretty thick and completely selfish people in positions of power these days - it’s probably always been the case, but there doesn’t half seem to be a lot of them at the moment.

I meant more literally people will have some form of cognitive dissonance and whilst criticising them still use their services

Always happens

[splott parker]

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Let’s be honest most companies would get away with murder if not for employment laws, the more they’re stripped away, the further those in charge will go. As TOBW states those with leanings to the Tory party are more likely to be complicit with this. It’s not a big secret.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

I meant more literally people will have some form of cognitive dissonance and whilst criticising them still use their services

Always happens

You could be right, but, for me, this is worse than a Ratners moment for P and O because of the heartlessness of it at a time when there’s a cost of living crisis going on and also the manner they went about informing the sacked workers of their decision - I reckon TBG is right when he suggests a rebranding exercise in the fairly near future.

[JamesWales]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

Let’s be honest most companies would get away with murder if not for employment laws, the more they’re stripped away, the further those in charge will go. As TOBW states those with leanings to the Tory party are more likely to be complicit with this. It’s not a big secret.

How do you work that one out? No member of any party would support the (supposedly illegal) sacking of hundreds of workers and replacement with cheaper agency (supposedly largely foreign) Labour.

If any party did support such actions - and the dont - such an accusation could be thrown at all parties.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

How do you work that one out? No member of any party would support the (supposedly illegal) sacking of hundreds of workers and replacement with cheaper agency (supposedly largely foreign) Labour.

If any party did support such actions - and the dont - such an accusation could be thrown at all parties.

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If you are struggling to understand why only British employees were sacked without notice by DP World and P&O Ferries, here's Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab to provide some clarification. https://t.co/dvGen2dQvp https://twitter.com/Cromwell606/stat...GX49tEPVCQeHHw

What a cnut

[splott parker]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

How do you work that one out? No member of any party would support the (supposedly illegal) sacking of hundreds of workers and replacement with cheaper agency (supposedly largely foreign) Labour.

If any party did support such actions - and the dont - such an accusation could be thrown at all parties.

So you don’t agree that Tory leaning people would be the ones most likely to support the stripping away of workers’ rights.

[the other bob wilson]

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Another piece by James Wales’ favourite political columnist for him to read. This one is about P and O with some interesting Linked In opinions about that tosser in the video - seems like a dyed in the wool socialist to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/18/p-o-ferries-staff-dubai-ferry-employees

[delmbox]

Re: Anyone using P and O Ferries this summer?

How do you work that one out? No member of any party would support the (supposedly illegal) sacking of hundreds of workers and replacement with cheaper agency (supposedly largely foreign) Labour.

If any party did support such actions - and the dont - such an accusation could be thrown at all parties.

For someone who claims not to be a Tory you don't half jump to their defence a lot