RMT Strikes

[dembethewarrior]

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its a bit more complicated than that. Network Rail is publicly owned, and passes on its costs to the franchise holders. Without a franchise model the government will lose billions in franchise fees and taxes levied on profits.



dividends only account for 2.5% of revenue received, so private ownership and the payment of dividends doesn't impact pricing as much as you think it does.

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However, privatisation only works where there is genuine competition, and the franchise model whereby you only have one operator goes against the theory. so in this respect, privatisation is more ideologically driven than for practicality.

Whatever happens, we really do need to invest more, and whether that is public or private is moot.

Network Rail maintain the infrastructure.

The companies on strike part of the RMT would be TOCs. Train operating companies.

[Feedback]

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Network Rail maintain the infrastructure.

The companies on strike part of the RMT would be TOCs. Train operating companies.

Yes, I'm not of the point you are trying to make.

[chrisp_1927]

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The agreement with Scotrail is for Krankie and her ilk, not Westminster.

The overtime problem was caused by no drivers being trained to fill vacancies during the covid panic because the unions would not allow people to attend for fear of catching it. Protecting their members by not running courses and now protecting their members because there are not enough drivers because the rail companies did not train anybody. (sorry about the pun lol)

makes perfect sense.

But you're right, it is not a strike but it will be because the RMT has stated clearly only this week that it intends to call all its members out

Sorry but you're wrong. It's not all down to training/lack of training during covid. Lots of train companies rely on voluntary overtime to cover their work and they have for years. Sundays especially are affected. I

[chrisp_1927]

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Network Rail maintain the infrastructure.

The companies on strike part of the RMT would be TOCs. Train operating companies.

RMT also represent network rail staff, including signallers. They also voted for strike action.

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Sorry but you're wrong. It's not all down to training/lack of training during covid. Lots of train companies rely on voluntary overtime to cover their work and they have for years. Sundays especially are affected. I

I would have thought that TOCs would know what resourcing they require given they know what services they provide. surely it must be more cost effective to hire more staff than pay existing staff overtime.

[Cyclops]

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Don't know what the strike is about and don't really care.
The average UK train driver earns £54,001 per year.
My heart bleeds for them!

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Don't know what the strike is about and don't really care.
The average UK train driver earns £54,001 per year.
My heart bleeds for them!

Holidays good, too. Every 5th week off plus around another 40 days paid holiday. Final salary pension also. Plus o/t potential, and relative job security.

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Holidays good, too. Every 5th week off plus around another 40 days paid holiday. Final salary pension also. Plus o/t potential, and relative job security.

Its almost as if strong unions benefit workers.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Its almost as if strong unions benefit workers.

I've been in a Union. Apart from the odd HR issue, they aren't really interested in small-scale stuff. Strong unions didn't really help the British car industry - or many others for that matter - in the 70's/80's. The workers benefited by losing their jobs.

[chrisp_1927]

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I would have thought that TOCs would know what resourcing they require given they know what services they provide. surely it must be more cost effective to hire more staff than pay existing staff overtime.

Overtime and rest day money is non pensionable, so they claw a bit back that way. I fully agree with you that it would make more sense to recruit enough staff to cover the service fully, that doesn't happen though. Some TOC's are 100% reliant on overtime to cover Sundays, crazy position to be in as a business.

[chrisp_1927]

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Holidays good, too. Every 5th week off plus around another 40 days paid holiday. Final salary pension also. Plus o/t potential, and relative job security.

Average driver salary doesn't really have anything to do with an RMT strike or members. Vast, vast majority of drivers are members of the ASLEF Union. The people balloted by the RMT were guards, ticket office, platform staff, aswell as network rail staff.

I think aslef are talking about balloting, but that would be a completely separate strike.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: RMT Strikes

Tory boys ......defend their right to bonuses , reward for hard work .......number of people out there who say ....WE deserve our holidays ......WE work hard for OUR money

Everyone else ? Lazy wasters doing jobs anyone can do .....and they get paid too much too !

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Tory boys ......defend their right to bonuses , reward for hard work .......number of people out there who say ....WE deserve our holidays ......WE work hard for OUR money

Everyone else ? Lazy wasters doing jobs anyone can do .....and they get paid too much too !

22 years. Non-stop. relentless. Would have been nice if you could have said something nice about Labour in all these years..

[dembethewarrior]

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Yes, I'm not of the point you are trying to make.

I definitely had one, but it was late so God knows now.

[dembethewarrior]

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Tory boys ......defend their right to bonuses , reward for hard work .......number of people out there who say ....WE deserve our holidays ......WE work hard for OUR money

Everyone else ? Lazy wasters doing jobs anyone can do .....and they get paid too much too !

You don't even work.