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  • #16
    Re: This is SO wrong....

    Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    They can...but not at that age......and why should someone else have to pander to whims.......they have a penis or they do not...end of story.
    What age? I dont think the article mentions their age. They have the consent off of their parents anyway.
    What gives a teacher the right to impose their own beliefs on a pupil?

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    • #17
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      when working in a Children's summer camp we had a non-binary 11 year old.

      And I over heard one staff member complaining how we shouldn't have to change our speech ect for this one child.
      and how it was difficult.

      the other coach responded 'well I just call them by their name.'

      It was so simple, and shut down his entire argument and all the points he tried to raise.

      So my question for the teacher would be regardless of your personal opinions, just call the child by their name, not hard.

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by chris lee View Post
        when working in a Children's summer camp we had a non-binary 11 year old.

        And I over heard one staff member complaining how we shouldn't have to change our speech ect for this one child.
        and how it was difficult.

        the other coach responded 'well I just call them by their name.'

        It was so simple, and shut down his entire argument and all the points he tried to raise.

        So my question for the teacher would be regardless of your personal opinions, just call the child by their name, not hard.
        Exactly how often do pronouns actually get used over names anyway.

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        • #19
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          he refused to address a transitioning student as 'they' would 'violate my religious beliefs and deny my God'

          Find another job enoch

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          • #20
            Re: This is SO wrong....

            Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
            People are assigned one of 2 genders when the midwife first takes a look at a newborn and checks their undercarriage.
            If that newborn, later on in life, decides they're not what they were assigned at birth, why should anyone else question that decision?
            Sex is observed at birth, not assigned. Midwives aren't picking teams.

            People can question the subjective, idealist assertion that someone is not the sex they were born if it impinges on their own rights; I'm not sure this was the case with the teacher though, and he hasn't gone about this very well.

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            • #21
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              It's amazing how Christians can be so bigoted against gay and transgender people

              Christians go on about love not sex but it so often boils down to the meat and two veg

              They are living in the dark ages

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              • #22
                Re: This is SO wrong....

                Enoch Powell more like

                He was a Bible basher too

                They are odd

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  It's amazing how Christians can be so bigoted against gay and transgender people

                  Christians go on about love not sex but it so often boils down to the meat and two veg

                  They are living in the dark ages
                  You go on about the 'Meat and 2 Veg' quite a bit as well. Anything you need to tell us :sherlock:

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                  • #24
                    Re: This is SO wrong....

                    Originally posted by Maurice Swan View Post
                    They can...but not at that age......and why should someone else have to pander to whims.......they have a penis or they do not...end of story.
                    Hey guess what, what you consider to be the end of the story isn’t that to everybody. Once you learn that you’ll find stuff like this upsets you less because you’ll accept the insane fact that not everyone is the same as you and your mates

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                      You go on about the 'Meat and 2 Veg' quite a bit as well. Anything you need to tell us :sherlock:
                      I wouldn't tell you anything mate xx

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by delmbox View Post
                        Hey guess what, what you consider to be the end of the story isn’t that to everybody. Once you learn that you’ll find stuff like this upsets you less because you’ll accept the insane fact that not everyone is the same as you and your mates
                        Right wing religious people never change

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                        • #27
                          Re: This is SO wrong....

                          Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
                          People are assigned one of 2 genders when the midwife first takes a look at a newborn and checks their undercarriage.
                          If that newborn, later on in life, decides they're not what they were assigned at birth, why should anyone else question that decision?
                          No-one should question it. If I want to say I'm an oak tree I should be allowed to say so. It doesn't make me an oak tree though, and no-one else is going to think I'm an oak tree.

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                          • #28
                            Re: This is SO wrong....

                            Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
                            People are assigned one of 2 genders when the midwife first takes a look at a newborn and checks their undercarriage.
                            If that newborn, later on in life, decides they're not what they were assigned at birth, why should anyone else question that decision?
                            Yeah...decades later......I am not Christian for those who have made comments.....I am agnostic. When you are born you either have a penis or you do not...THAT determines gender. S for calling them simply by their NAME - absolutely agree...but it does not seem that is acceptable.

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                            • #29
                              Re: This is SO wrong....

                              Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
                              People are assigned one of 2 genders when the midwife first takes a look at a newborn and checks their undercarriage.
                              If that newborn, later on in life, decides they're not what they were assigned at birth, why should anyone else question that decision?
                              To a point, which is something missing from the trans "debate". For example, there are convicted rapists who have declared themselves trans in women's prison. That is surely wrong? Trans people have a right to be who they want but other people's rights and wishes must be considered too. Unfortunately they tend not to be. As soon as you raise these sort of questions - to enter into a debate - you are labelled a bigot and anti-trans, sometimes with drastic repercussions, such as happened to lesbian feminist Kathleen Stock - hardly a right wing loon - who was hounded out of her post at Sussex Uni for daring to suggest that there are limits to what trans people can demand.

                              This isn't necessary relevant to the OP but it us relevant to your comment.

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                              • #30
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                                It is a bit of a fad.

                                There are genuine people out there that suffer who are transitioning or have done. Then you have people who are very confused and want to be non binary and jump on the whole woke bandwagon.

                                Call yourself whatever, I can go around calling myself King of Wales if I want to, but I'd be laughed at if I expected everyone else to also address me this way.

                                Except I wouldn't be laughed at, and it would be taken very seriously if I convinced enough people that this is the future and the way of the world.

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