FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

[Hilts]

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Yep. I cannot see Page dropping him. In the first half their players just went straight past him. He also lost the ball often as did Bale.

Losing the ball 1st half wasnt exclusive to them. They were all losing it. Nobody passed it well 1st half.

Ramseys movement gets us the penalty.

Has to play v an awful Iran side as does Bale.

[Wales-Bales]

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You are right . Substitutions after 25 minutes are 10 a penny.

I've seen substitutes substituted in the first half!

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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I've seen substitutes substituted in the first half!

But you've never seen a manager change it in the first half when playing as badly as we did tonight.

If Page changed his mind as often as you we'd have won.

[Moodybluebird]

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I don't think we will fully solve the midfield problem until the next batch of youngsters come through.

Think you're right there. Our best midfielders of recent times are aging, have lost their spark and in some cases are now a hindrance to the team. And yet....it was Ramsey who put that clever little ball in to Bale who used all his know how to win the penalty and dispatch it. As frustrating as it is to watch previously top class performers losing or giving the ball away time after time, they can make a difference during the game and that's why we now have our first point on the board. We really have no other viable options until, as you said, the next batch of youngsters come through.

[Ivortheengine]

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What did he achieve- one header over the bar !

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Wrong starting line-up, wrong shape. Page must be big enough to admit the fact that we didn't win was down to him.

Page fixed it. He made a mistake. We are at the end of a cycle. Ramsey, Allen and Bale are nearly done, we are nearly at a pretty major rebuild. In the first half we had 3 passengers. I’d have brought Moore on earlier but we got out of jail.

[bluesp]

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What did he achieve- one header over the bar !

If that’s all you saw…..

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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I think Allen and ampadu would be great but Allen's not fit

Yes, but you said Allen wouldn’t have held back USA. We wouldn’t have given the ball away as much as we did had Allen played. His lack of football is going to be a concern now

[Wales-Bales]

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But you've never seen a manager change it in the first half when playing as badly as we did tonight.

If Page changed his mind as often as you we'd have won.

I said I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: FT: WALES 1 - 1 U.S.A. Match thread

Think you're right there. Our best midfielders of recent times are aging, have lost their spark and in some cases are now a hindrance to the team. And yet....it was Ramsey who put that clever little ball in to Bale who used all his know how to win the penalty and dispatch it. As frustrating as it is to watch previously top class performers losing or giving the ball away time after time, they can make a difference during the game and that's why we now have our first point on the board. We really have no other viable options until, as you said, the next batch of youngsters come through.

That's why I keep going on about getting them in the squad instead of picking Jonniesta & Gunter every game. It's pointless

[Wales-Bales]

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Yes, but you said Allen wouldn’t have held back USA. We wouldn’t have given the ball away as much as we did had Allen played. His lack of football is going to be a concern now

One option is to play Morrell next to Ampadu if he is fit for the next game. If he's injured we are in a pickle.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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I said I've never seen a manager wait 45 mins to change a team that are playing that bad.

My bad I've had a few.

I still don't believe you on your first point though.

[BLUETIT]

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At international level Ramsey's well past his sell by date. I just wonder if his 'status' prevents the journeyman manager from dropping him.

What utter shite !!

He’s still a class act and a game changer

[Wales-Bales]

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What utter shite !!

He’s still a class act and a game changer

He's better playing as a 10 though.

[LA Bluebird]

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After the anger of how bad we were in the first half and the stress of the second half, I think it just hit me that I just saw Wales at a World Cup, never mind taking a point off a country 10x the size and with probably more than that again in terms of money and resources. I didn't get as emotional as I thought I would at either of the Euros even being there in person in France, but this one has hit different tonight.