Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
I think the scariest thing about the referendum is the top political "minds" in the country can't even decide what's best for the UK. Even current and past chancellors seem to be saying opposite things.

If these supposed experts can't agree on what's best for us how can the general public be expect to know what's best?

The whole campaign will be based around xenophobia, propaganda and fear mongering from both sides.

I'm leaning towards staying in but I couldn't put up a coherent argument as to why I think anyone else would beyond the lack of financial help Wales will lose and the fact the human rights act will be abolosihed.
I don't know what the fuss is all about.

1. Being inside a free trade area is very demonstrably better than being outside one. So the economic arguments from the out lot are a load of bollocks.

2. The sovereignty argument has me s******ing a little. No party has had more than 50% of the eligible electorate voting for it since modern elections began. Get that? Not one. Ergo all governments are tyrannies of the biggest minority. Wales has never, ever voted Tory, yet is constantly governed by an English Tory party. So the sovereignty arguments are a load of bollocks. (At least in the US the next president will most likely have gained more than 50% of the votes cast.)

3. Judge the cake in the eating. The EEC and EU have delivered better lives in terms of social policy. I won't list all the gains, there are too many. Who cares about the EU mechanisms that achieved the gains? Leave and demolish all that? A load of bollocks.

The out lot are coming across from afar as a bunch of middle class, xenophobic "little Englanders" who think they can wind the clock back to 1850. Face it - the sun set on the empire. The UK is a small remote(ish) island on the NW of Europe with not a lot going for it.

Turn the lights out if you leave ...