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    Re: Brexit ( should I say or should I go )

    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy Bear View Post
    Well you over simplistic analysis makes me want to vote out.

    There is more than just Europe in the world. We are very much as good as certainty going to have similar access to the single market, plus better placed to agree more free trade agreements arou d the world. So the economic arguments are similar whether in or out. We had 50%of trade with Europe before joining we have 49% of trade now, not much difference in or out.

    Although sovereignty is not a vote changer for me your analysis clearly lacks any knowledge. When you have a 2 party election is it impossible for the winner to get less than 50% of the vote. We have a 6 party vote, its simply not comparable. And to claim that a 2
    Party system is better is simply deluded.

    And your final claim. Well many of the in voters don't seem to have given it much thought, as backed up by your and many others posts on here. Hoping this generalisation isn't completely true, but it is on this forum.
    The truth is simple. I'll try again. I'll ignore your silly insults - let's try to be civil rather than UKIPers.

    1. The EU has myriad trade agreements; many that date back to the '70s. Trade agreements take years to negotiate. It's for the outers like you to demonstrate the UK would be better off jettisoning all of that. Free trade is universally good, more free trade is better. No brainer.

    2. I never mentioned anything about numbers of parties in comparing the US and the UK. You're conflating political sociology with the simple point I made about the supposed lack of sovereignty membership of the EU entails. The simple fact is the will of the people for a government that represents the majority of them is elusive. The UK populace doesn't get it, EU or no EU. No brainer.

    3. You're wrong. Many of the iners have given the social (and indirect economic) benefits that follow from hard-won things like the rights enshrined in the European Convention on Human Rights a great deal of thought and will mourn its disappearance with an out vote. Who cares how the EU social provisions came about? It appears you don't appreciate the inalienable rights the EU currently affords you. Again no brainer.

    Britons aren't British citizens (there is no set of enshrined constitutional rights or bill of rights), they are subjects of her majesty. They are currently, however, European citizens. I'd think awfully hard about chucking the latter in the trash.
    Last edited by az city; 21-04-16 at 15:49.

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